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Trailer backing question

16 years ago

OK I have a Agrifab poly trailer, today is the first use, loaded it with some brush (not very heavy) but it just will not back up, even gentle turns of the wheel if it gets going swinging to one side and no way to straighten it out, just keeps going and I have to pull forward.

Is this #1 'just the way it is'

#2 too light a load and the tires are just not gripping the ground?

Not like I have not backed up camp trailers, boats etc so I know how to back up this is just strange.

Comments (10)

  • 16 years ago

    can you spin the wheels freely without a load in it?

  • 16 years ago

    can you spin the wheels with your hand without a load in it?

  • 16 years ago

    Yup, brand new I am realy thinking it NOT having weight/load it just skitters about and once it goes right or left their is no hope, will pile some weight in tomorrow and see if it's any better.

  • 16 years ago

    It has to do with the wheelbase. And the length of space between the tongue and wheels. The longer, the easier.

  • 16 years ago

    would not that be the same for say a 18' car and 16' trailer, seems the ratio would be the same?

  • 16 years ago

    Ha ha ha! LOL! I've own one of those dump trailers since 1985. I've never been able to back it up worth a darn. I can swing out, straighten up, and back up for a short piece. But it's not worth the trouble. I've learned how to make a pass through next to where I want the trailer to either pickup, drop off. Like I said I can back up straight for a very short ways to dump. But not very far. They don't steer like a boat trailer by a long ways. It's got something to do about the scale. May be 1/4 scale? In 1/4 of the space? Can You Say Jackknife?

    Good Luck

    ms

  • 16 years ago

    LOL yup jackknife is the proper description of it, I tried several times from a dead on straight position and it just kept wraping around no matter what I did with the wheels. Didn't seem to matter it swerved around no matter how slow and careful I went.

    Still don't know how I was able to back a JD full body trailer with a blower/vac attachement back in the 70's to dump the leaves/grass clipings off the bank.

  • 16 years ago

    In my experience the back-ability of tow vehicle and trailer is dependent on the distance from the back wheel of the vehicle to the ball divided by the distance from the ball to the wheels on the trailer (single axel) or Vehicle/trailer.

    As that fraction approaches zero the trailer will become very easy to back. If it goes greatly over 1 then the trailer will become impossible to back.

    With an 18 wheeler that ratio is probable about 0.2. Watch a truck driver back the trailer into impossible places.

    Compare that to backing a 4' utility and a normal car where the ratio could be as high as 1.0

  • 16 years ago

    In my experience the back-ability of tow vehicle and trailer is dependent on the distance from the back wheel of the vehicle to the ball divided by the distance from the ball to the wheels on the trailer (single axel) or Vehicle/trailer.

    As that fraction approaches zero the trailer will become very easy to back. If it goes greatly over 1 then the trailer will become impossible to back.

    With an 18 wheeler that ratio is probable about 0.2. Watch a truck driver back the trailer into impossible places.

    Compare that to backing a 4' utility and a normal car where the ratio could be as high as 1.0

  • 16 years ago

    You can say that again : )

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