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Recommend some rugosas

18 years ago

Could you please recommend some rugosas? IÂm giving a talk to a local garden club on "Landscaping with Species and Species-hybrid Roses", and I want to include rugosas. I like and grow rugosas, but due to space limitations, IÂve mostly eliminated named varieties and am growing selected seedlings. IÂd like to be able to provide the members with the name of popular rugosas that are commercially available.

IÂd appreciate suggestions of rugosas that would do well in my climate. IÂd like to focus on the near-species types (mostly rugose foliage) rather than the more dilute non-rugose hybrids. Any comments about the plants would be welcome too.

GROWING CONDITIONS:

USDA climate zone 6 (Sunset 2 & 3)

Winters regularly, but not always, get below Zero. Little or no snow cover.

Summers in high 90s-low 100s. Dry, all plants need supplemental irrigation. (Average annual rainfall under 7 inches).

No blackspot (Persian Yellow/Austrian Copper do well here). No rust. Some mildew spring and fall.

Alkaline soil. Soil type ranges from light clay to sandy, sometimes within the same neighborhood.

Many double rugosas (for example Rugosa Magnifica) in this climate give nice spring blooms, but summer blooms are shapeless and muddled looking. Therese Bugnut does fine. Singles and semi-double blooms usually look fine year round.

Comments (18)

  • 18 years ago

    Look down this page at Henry Hudson. I have Therese and to me, it's just okay. I really like my Rotes Meer. I also like my Rugosa Rubra but have noticed this year the blooms blow very fast. I did a post on white rugosas if you want recommendations on white ones, I saved the info.

    Carla

  • 18 years ago

    I'd gotten some rugosa roses from Corn Hill last year. Also a couple from Sherando.

    They all seem to be doing pretty well; the ones from Corn Hill had an earlier start and were ahead but not by much.

    The best so far seem to be Snow Pavement and Dart's Dash. Had a few flowere on Blanc Double de Coubert last year, anticipate more.

    Slow last year were Moje Hammerberg & Roseraie de l'Hay, though both look good now, having buds getting ready to bloom.

  • 18 years ago

    F.J. Grootendorst is a continuous bloomer. Tall with fringed flowers that are red, not brilliant but nice. It has other color sports, pink and white along with a deeper red. Fru Dagmar Hastrup is also a good one not as tall as F.J. Another continuous bloomer is Bell Poitevine with very beautiful flowers. Both it an Fru are very fragrant as are most rugosas (except for F.J. that is scentless)

  • 18 years ago

    Dart's Dash is my favorite. It resembles a shorter-growing version of Hansa, which also looks rather like Rosaraie de l'Hay. All three rugosas are magenta, have an intense fragrance of cloves and rebloom. Dart's Dash has beautiful, huge hips, about the size of cherry tomatoes.

    Rosefolly

  • 18 years ago

    First, see if you can find a copy of Suzy Verrier's Rosa Rugosa book. Spectacular photos, good advice.
    Second, look up Polareis - a hybrid, but with very rugose foliage and a goshdarn bloom machine. Huge spring flush, one midsummer, another in fall, and always a few in between. No disease, winter hardy - two years ago there was a new set of buds trying out a mild December!
    If I had to pick one rose - Polareis. Suzy Verrier sells it at her North Creek Farm nursery on the Maine coast, near Bath. It might be too late to ship to you, though...

  • 18 years ago

    This months issue of Fine Gardening has an article by Suzy Verrier that is very interesting and informative about her favorite Rugosa's. Well worth picking up the magazine and reading this article if you are interested in Rugosa's. I enjoyed it and I don't have any Rugosa's in my garden!

    Carol

  • 18 years ago

    I suggest Rosa rugosa alba. Graham Stuart Thomas wrote of it that no rose is more purely white.

    I agree. It's beautiful in its single, clear white simplicity against the shiny dark green foliage!

  • 18 years ago

    Look at Schneezeberg, they are smaller but white and lovely.
    Vintage Gardens has a good offering.
    I am afraid Rugosa Alba would blow it's blooms too fast. They are pretty but as I said, they are not for long time enjoyment in my opinion. Could be the heat here.

    Carla

  • 18 years ago

    I've grown a lot of rugosas in zone 6, back when I had acres!! The best: r. rugosa alba and rubra--vigorous, bushy, lots of bloom & HIPS! Roserie de l'Hay makes a beautiful rounded shrub, very fragrant but sets few hips-- however you'll get the nice autumn foliage color on her. Fru Dagmar Hartopp is splended, lower-growing than many & so tough she's been used along freeways! Very lovely blooms; she's showier than her photos. For a small garden, J&P has a new hybrid out with nice BIG white single blooms called Wild Spice-- it's like a downsized r. rugosa alba but if anything even MORE fragrant. Not so good: Hansa-- can be awfully leggy/awkward-- Sarah van Fleet--as plants mature, gets bare legs. Sir Thomas Lipton--good grower but hard to place-- bare at bottom and soars up to about 11 feet tall. Hard to see the blooms!

  • 18 years ago

    Thank you for the suggestions. I appreciate the help.

    I do have Suzy Verrier's Rosa Rugosa book. I'll have to see if I can find a copy of the magazine article.

  • 18 years ago

    Rotes Meer aka Purple Pavement seems unkillable here. It produces many blooms with powerful fragrance on a compact 5'x5' bush. RM also produces many viable suckers for me, but they generally appear within two feet of the plant.

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  • 18 years ago

    I really like my Rotes Meer too. I skimmed through the Fine Gardening and she mentions some rugosas I never heard of.

    Carla

  • 18 years ago

    I'm another fan of Dart's Dash. Not crazy about the name, but it's a great performer. I like the name Wildberry Breeze even less, but it's another excellent rugosa. Single, beautifully perfumed flowers.

    Here's a picture of my Wildberry Breeze:

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  • 18 years ago

    I second Rotesmeer and would also suggest Schneekoppe. It is white with a hint of lavender, one of the Pavement series. Said to only reach 3' x 3' I'd have to say mine reached 4 feet in only a couple of years. The Pavement series in general are dense, healthy roses that are good for low hedging. Most have semi-double blooms that look good all year. I once tried to catalog all known Pavement roses, here are the ones I've located:

    Pierette Pavement, aka Yankee Lady - light pink - z3b
    Purple Pavement, aka Rotesmeer, Exception - purple crimson - z3b
    Snow Pavement, aka Schneekoppe - white with a hint of lavender - z3b
    Foxi Pavement, aka Buffalo Gal - deep pink - z3b
    Pink Pavement, aka Showy Pavement and Rokoko - orange-pink - z3b
    Pristine Pavement, aka Schneeberg - white - z6b
    Scarlet Pavement, aka Rote Apart - med. red - z6b
    Snowflake Pavement, aka Schneeflocke - white w/pink edges - z4b
    White Pavement, aka Snow Owl - white - z3b
    Dwarf Pavement, aka Zwerg, Rosa Zwerg, Admiration - med. pink - z3b

    Scarlet and Pristine Pavements may not be hardy for you as they are rated to z6b.

    Another rugosa hybrid whose blooms alway look fresh to me is Jens Munk. It is one of the Canadian Explorer series.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks again everyone for the suggestions. I'll have to see if the library has the Sunset article. That seems like it could be very helpful.

    I live in the south-eastern part of Washington State. It really is that dry. I've had decent luck with rugosas--maybe not as much as in other climates--but they still make a nice plant. I see a number of rugosa hedges around, and the occasional older plant of something similar to Hansa, so IÂm not the only one growing rugosas.

  • 18 years ago

    Roseraie de l'Hay is one of my favorites. It already has buds with color underneath the sepals. Lovely, but the blooms do go a bit raggamuffin. However I find it's rather self cleaning so that's not so much a problem when looking too cruddy. I'm going to count the flushes I get this year, last year I think I had about three.

    Max

  • 18 years ago

    Hansa's legginess can be an advantage as a background rose, especially since it will bloom with only part sun and is extremely fragrant. It is also the toughest rose I have ever grown.