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19 years ago

I just posted the below on the iris forum, and am posting here too.

I might just have committed iris murder.

I just came in after doing the scariest gardening thing ever. My first season in this home, with a large iris bed, about 6 feet by 4 feet, maybe larger. Lots of pretty green leaves, maybe 4 or 5 blooms this Spring. I read the FAQ on how to divide bearded iris on this forum. I don't even know if mine are bearded iris or not!! But I followed the FAQ anyway.

I began with a spade, and lifted some clumps higher, but could not loosen them off the soil. So I took my biggest kitchen knife and sliced through them in smaller sections, and then they came off. I kept doing this and must have cleared about 3 feet by 1 foot so far. The mound of rhizomes, however, is ginormous!! I also discovered that there were actually two layers of rz's, and if I wiggled off the lower layer first -- which came off without leaves attached to it -- then the upper layer with the leaves was easier to break apart and lift off.

I was so scared -- not knowing if I was killing them or saving them!

Anyway, what do I do now? They're lying in a heap next to the bed, on the stone patio. Tomorrow morning, the sun is going to beat down on them. Please tell me what to do!!

The FAQ says i should wash them and then cut them? Mothers from children? They just look like bunches of red ginger-root to me. I can't tell mothers from children. Plus some have leaves (top layer) and some don't (bottom layer). Which ones are the best ones to replant? Is it supposed to be by size? Or by if they have leaves or not?

Because there are so many, it will take me and my 10-year-old a while to get through the washing and cutting of these, not to mention the rest of the bed. Should I wait with replanting in the same bed until I pull out all the iris?

The FAQ says to plant the rz's 2 feet apart??? You've got to be kidding. Then I might as well not mess with the pulled-out clump because it would take up most of the garden!

Please help! I am really freaked out!

Deepti

Comments (10)

  • 19 years ago

    I don't wash them off. I don't cut them apart, either, I just break them at a point that looks like it will snap easily. Discard the crappy looking ones, or any that look slimy or rotten, and save the nicest, juiciest, healthiest looking ones with a good fan of leaves on them to replant. Prepare the new area, add some compost if you have it, and replant the rhizomes, with the fleshy tuber just showing at the surface of the soil, and any attached thin roots covered with soil completely. I usually cut the leaves back by about half to reduce moisture loss.

    This is a good time to find out if your friends, neighbors, and relatives want some irises. Or passing motorists.

  • 19 years ago

    Deepti, it's really, really hard to kill Iris, so don't worry too much. Yes, on keeping the ones that look healthy, with a good bit of foliage. These things do take off and increase in clump size like gangbusters, hence the recommendation for planting them far apart, but don't worry about replanting all your rhizomes, unless you really do want 300 of the same Iris.

    Give away what you don't want. Or plant them where you want something that you don't need to maintain. That's what I'm doing with my extras.

  • 19 years ago

    Another thing to remember, is the rhizomes are like toes...or feet with the fan of leaves as the leg....and the clump will move in the direction of the fan..
    So when you replant, make little circles of the rhizomes,,,each with a fan of leaves...face 2 one way and 2 the other way so they will stay in a fairly neat clump and not all move the same way...
    Throwing excess hosta rhizomes into a road side ditch or behind the barn will tell you how really sturdy they are.
    Linda C

  • 19 years ago

    Deepti,
    May I make a suggestion, sounds like if you don't expand your bed your going to be dividing again soon. Save what you want and replant, and if you can't find anyone to take them you can sell them on the LILY AUCTION. People sell hostas, canna, iris, on the lily auction, but mostly daylilies. Just a suggestion, If you can't give them away you can make money on them, and buy different ones! There is a lot of iris up for sale on the Lily auction now. Do you know the names of the iris that you have? That would probably help, when trying to get rid of them. Just a thought! Good luck! -Jessica

  • 19 years ago

    Hi Deepti!

    You dug them up just right - it can take a backhoe to remove an established bed of irises. Pick out a dozen pieces of rhizome and replant them. List the others on craigslist, compost them (if you can get them to die) or pot a few up for the fall MAG swap ;-)

  • 19 years ago

    I am so grateful for your help! I just finished dividing them (the first mound, not the rest of the bed). I think part of the scariness last evening was that I was pulling them out and slicing them in semi-dark, and it seemed like I was cutting flesh or something...

    Unfortunately, the biggest, fattest, juiciest ones seem to be the mothers. Maybe I divided the leafed ones too small, but most of the saved ones have much smaller rz's.

    I have two grocery paper bags full of good ones, and one full of mothers that I didn't have the heart to throw.

    This evening I'll go back to digging the bed.

    Can you tell me what sort of soil iris's like? Sandy, clayey, loamy, etc. I don't want to do a soil test, so some sort of general purporse low-nitrogen fertilizer?

    Thanks again,
    Deepti

  • 19 years ago

    Yes, it is hard to kill Irises. Years ago my sister gave me a bunch of rhizomes of some older varieties. Being too busy at the time, I threw the bunch of them down in the corner of a garden bed and forgot about them - for months! They shriveled up to little puds, and feeling rather guilty, I finally planted them.

    Not only did they survive and thrive, but I brought some of them with me to this house and I have numerous drifts of them now! Perhaps the fancy new cultivars are less hardy though?

    As for soil, Irises like it very well-drained and sandy. Mine are in the hottest, driest, sandiest parts of the gardens. Many are thriving right along the road, where it is very sandy and dry and god knows what splashes up from the road. I rarely water them.

    Just be sure to plant them with the top of the rhizome at the same level as the surface of the soil.

  • 19 years ago

    The small pieces may not bloom until they reach a larger size, so don't get rid of the large ones if they are healthy looking.

  • 19 years ago

    I would love to see some photos! I am new @ gardening and am also originally from Baltimore, MD

  • 19 years ago

    Deepti:

    Although I am still learning about how to manage bulbs and beareded iris specifically I would second what Saypoint says and don't wash them. Keep them in a dry cool place until you can replant them. You don't want to have to throw any away because they started rotting.

    Kate

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