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Triumph Elm Tree Pruning Question

15 years ago

I have a Triumph Elm tree which was planted 2 years ago and has started to add some girth and height. The problem is is that the leader is growing off at an angle and the tree has a crotch that is fairly low. It looks nice now, but i want it to be healthy and strong in the future. Therefore, I think the lower side branch needs to eventually come off, but it might look funky. When should I do this if at all? Years from now? Or sooner? Also, i pruned the current leader shorter, in hopes that a more centrally located and taller one will take over and the tree won't grow off the the side as much. Was this the right thing to do? Or what can I do to to make it grow taller and less sideways? Any help on this matter would be great.

The green in the picture is the current leader. The red X is the branch I'm thinking about cutting off sometime. It might look silly though.

Here is a link that might be useful:

Comments (9)

  • 15 years ago

    This tree does not have a 'leader'.

    See this recent discussion.

    Dan

  • 15 years ago

    let us rephrase his OP ....

    he wants its branching at a higher level... before the canopy develops as it will with an elm ...

    could he take off the one he suggests.. then put in a big stake.. and pull the other vertical ... tying and retying for a year or two.. to train the tree into a proper vertical ... until the trunk strengthens enough to not need the stake ...

    elms are not endemic to my area .. but the few pics i have seen.. they are stately trees that have been limbed up 10.. 20.. 30 feet.. before the canopy turn into the typical form ...

    are you suggesting he can not train this tree into a favorable form .. are you suggesting he should just destroy it .... and go buy one with the proper form.. and never prune it to height????

    i have done it on oak and cherry ... why cant it be done on an elm ????

    what do you think ..

    ken

  • 15 years ago

    It is the same situation as in the other thread: maybe in a few years, not now, there is no leader.

    And its too bad it forked so low.

    Dan

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks for your responses. So to clarify - I will wait on removing the lower branch until the crown gains some height. (Possibly making attempts at limiting the growth of that lower limb?) and also attempting to train the tree to grow a bit more vertically? Either by pruning and or staking?

  • 15 years ago

    The tree will grow vertically without anybody's help.

    I guess if you have to just to satisfy some unknown compunction, you can correct that defect and prune the left scaffold limb in the near- to mid-term future, but I don't know what the reason would be unless the bark is included.

    You'll have a clear bend in the trunk if you do that, which will be noticeable for at least a decade, minimum, probably closer to two. That tree grows in a vase-shaped form. That is what it does. It is doing it now. It will continue to do that in the future. The only thing wrong in this case is that the tree forks at 4'. That is the only thing. There is nothing to do to the tree to make it grow "straight" without screwing up the tree.

    Dan

  • 15 years ago

    That's exactly what i needed to know. I quit worrying about it and enjoy the thing instead. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • 15 years ago

    The tree will grow vertically without anybody's help.

    ===>>> let me clarify that for dan ...

    the branches will not move up from the presumed 4 feet... the trunk will thicken.. and the tips will continue from where they are ...

    but the branches at 4 feet.. will remain at 4 feet ...

    and i dont know if that future would make me happy ... but it isnt about me..

    if you are happy.. then super

    ken

  • 15 years ago

    "In particular, wounded elm wood is known to attract bark beetles that harbor spores of the Dutch elm disease fungus, and open wounds on oaks are known to attract beetles that spread the oak wilt fungus. Take care to prune these trees during the correct time of year to prevent spread of these fatal diseases. Contact your local tree disease specialist to find out when to prune these tree species in your area. Usually, the best time is during the late fall and winter. "

    In general I just prune. Elm, even the new and improved ones, live in fear of DED. I like the tree, I like the vase shape. Notice the good websites call it "resistant" to DED not immune. May as well prune it at the right time of year.

    Here is a link that might be useful: www.na.fs.fed.us link I stole the quote from

  • 15 years ago

    I quit worrying about it and enjoy the thing instead.

    Outstanding. Perfect. Enjoy!

    Dan