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Tiny Seeds-How do you precision sow??

16 years ago

This is the question.

Now I know that it is very easy and effective to just broadcast seed in a flat and do HOS later.

But, what if your a stickler about doing things in a precise way???

All your ducks in a row type personality.

What are your bestest methods?

What is the coolest, most efficient method you have ever seen?

I am only asking because I came across a very cool, but not something I would ever be likely to spend hard earned bucks on, tool.

Once you see it you will all be wanting one I'm sure if only to show it off to your friends.

I'll let this thread go for awhile and then I have a pretty neat hack I came up with to duplicate the coolness of the tool I saw.

I'm working on a tutorial post on how to make one if you were so inclined.

I think you'll like it.

Stay tuned!

Monte

Comments (22)

  • 16 years ago

    You could use tweezers or a seed spoon. Some seed company sent me a free seed spoon when I ordered seeds but I don't remember which company it was. T&M shows one.

    Karen

    Here is a link that might be useful: seed spoon

  • 16 years ago

    Hiya Monte! Good to see you :)
    I either mix mine with a bit of sand or moisten the tip of a chiseled pencil eraser, and I have this framed screen thingy that works pretty well that hubby built, but I can't wait to see what you've come up with this time.

    Quit teasin' and show us!

  • 16 years ago

    I pinch with my fingers and sprinkle a little. I have to admit I probably sow too many.

    Karen

  • 16 years ago

    You could make your own seed tapes. I downloaded instructions at greenweb.com making your own seed tapes.

  • 16 years ago

    Seed spoons, yup got those, works OK.

    Not WICKED COOL but OK.

    Sand mix, wet eraser, screen.

    All good choices.

    Again, not WICKED COOL but OK.

    Love seed tapes. Great for preparing flats of fast growing things like asian veggies to be succession planted.

    Very easy to do, seed efficient, ducks in a row type activity.

    COOL, not so much.

    Stay tuned for further info on this developing story.

  • 16 years ago

    Come on....you're killing us! We all wanna know, and we all wanna know now!!! Atleast I do...

  • 16 years ago

    Hi, I've used a toothpick, wetting one end, pick up seed with wet end, place on top of soil by gently rubbing it off the toothpick, done. very tedious work, though. I prefer HOS myself.
    Duane

  • 16 years ago

    Thanks for the idea about seed tapes.

    I put my smaller ones in a little sugar in a salt shaker; think I read you can use cornmeal. For larger seeds to broadcast, I use a parmesan cheese shaker mixed with sugar. Otherwise just plant individually in jugs, easy enough. Have done sand, but it is a little heavy and hard to see the seeds. I sprinkle sparingly in a grid pattern, making several passes to ensure good coverage, pausing to shake the seeds to keep them mixed. I can see them in the sugar, it's organic, and hasn't seemed to bother anything yet.

    Google make your own seed tape. You will come up with lots of hits. I'd go for something I can improvise with before buying from places like the link I found.

    Here's another way but I'd want to plant right away in jugs or ground and forget the plastic baggies.

    http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-Your-Own-Seed-Tapes/

    Just went out to shovel and saw a pile of brown paper bags (not the heavier shopping bags), freebies from somewhere, cut them in strips. Would they be too heavy?

    Here is a link that might be useful: Commercial seed tape for your own seeds

  • 16 years ago

    OK hereÂs the toy that I was referring to.

    The link has 2 videos of it in action.

    Slow loading but worth it.

    The lettuce seed one especially demons rateÂs how precise it is in action.

    Here is a link that might be useful: The Toy

  • 16 years ago

    For sowing small/tiny seeds in jugs I just use a small piece of paper. I sprinkle the seeds on a piece of white paper then use the smaller piece to pick them up one by one to place just where I want them. Works easily and quickly and no special can't-find-it-when-I-need-it tool necessary. Imagine for larger plantings this would be too slow. For in ground I also use the mix with sand/sugar or just sow a pinch.

  • 16 years ago

    I sow a pinch. Just like putting salt in a pan of something I might be cooking.

  • 16 years ago

    Well, I've got a mega problem. I finally collected at the right time what I hope are viable canoe or paper birch seeds. They are tiny, couple hundred or more of them, never any volunteers in the lawn or anywhere that I recognized but some suckers.

    I think they need to be grown individually, then if you want a clump (I like 3), you need put them together when they've grown a bit, intuition tells me they shouldn't be too crowded or they'll lean more and bases will be deformed. WS should be ideal though because it's a good bet they need stratification.

    My neighbor across the street has a beautiful tulip tree, the real deal, not Magnolia as some call them.

    I'm finding volunteers in my yard, mostly in inconvenient places to transplant properly, but marked a couple to try to transplant in the spring, no place to grow them actually so why bother saving them?

    I think I'll just try the birch seeds in a jug and see what happens.

  • 16 years ago

    OK hereÂs the toy that I was referring to.

    The link has 2 videos of it in action.

    Slow loading but worth it.

    The lettuce seed one especially demonsrateÂs how precise it is in action.

    Now for my hack.

    This is VERY complicated so pay attention.

    Get a hold of the following items:

    1) A Sonicare or other sonic toothbrush
    2) A single slat from a vinyl mini blind
    3) A rubber band {{gwi:344131}}

    Cut the slat about 8 inches longer than your toothbrush.

    Cut one end to a point and gently crease the slat into a "V" shape for about half its length.

    Attach slat to toothbrush with rubber band. {{gwi:344132}}

    It works GREAT.

    No YouTube video yet (working on it) so youÂll have to take my word but it does work GREAT.

    By adjusting your grip (pinching down) on the "V" shaped part of the slat and adjusting the angle you have a huge measure of control.

    Best part?

    This one doesnÂt cost $60. ($80 in the Territorial catalog)

    More cash in pocket for seeds and you can still use the toothbrush when your done.

    Enjoy,

    Monte

    Here is a link that might be useful: VibroSeeder

  • 16 years ago

    Wow. I just sprinkle the seeds too. I'm not a ducks in a row type personality. Lol* I'm a - throw it in there so I can get on to something else - kind of person. That looks a little like something we might be trained to use on people in nursing school! :) Very inventive. :) Only someone who wants to precision sow lettuce seeds could come up with something like this!!!

  • 16 years ago

    Too much bother for me. If I only have a few seeds I just pick up one at a time using my fingernail as the scoop. Works for me.

    And I sure don't want a single all purpose utility tool for both playing in dirt and brushing my teeth. Yuk.

    Karen

  • 16 years ago

    "And I sure don't want a single all purpose utility tool for both playing in dirt and brushing my teeth."

    Tru dat. (as they say)

    The unit I used was a spare one that was hanging around.

    If pressed you could probably find a really cheap vibrating toothbrush that would work just as well at Wally World.

    Mrs. Monte is attracted to shiny new toys and is always bringing home new items to replace things we already have.

    By my count we are on our 3rd variation of the sonic toothbrush.

    Not to mention the little UV sterilizing gadget that hangs on the wall to hold the brush heads.

    Monte

  • 16 years ago

    Got to agree with not wanting this in my soil and my mouth.

    Interesting concept though, but too much bother and something I could never use.

    With tendon and nerve damage in my arms, the vibration would kill me in pain and turn my arms into spastic spasms.

    What I can suggest is an idea I came up with from an old, old remnant that my grandma gave me when I first moved to my own apartment almost 40 years ago. a melon scoop.

    Yes you all read that correctly, a melon scoop,

    It's an old 2 ended melon scoop with 2 different sizes to make melon balls with.

    The awesome part of this is this, There is a tiny hole in the center of each scoop and you can carefully scoop seeds out of a container, into the scoop the gently shake the scoop over your soil and the seeds sprinkle out.

    Just to think that I was going to finally toss this out of my kitchen drawer when a friend noticed the "holes and though"would this do it with those tiny, tiny seeds. Next day we gave it a try and it's wonderful to use.

    K-mart, Walmart, Target sell them, and they still have that little hole in it so the juice drains out of the scoop when you scoop out the melon ball.

    Simpler, easier to use and easier to find and get going with.

    Fran

  • 16 years ago

    Fran,

    Now there is an idea. Your Grandma was visionary.

    Get a hold of a set of Dollar Store measuring spoons.

    Use very small drill bits and drill differently sized holes in the various measures. i.e. 1/64" in the 1/4 teaspoon, 1/32 in the 1/2 teaspoon etc.

    Drill the hole off center, slightly up the side wall of the bowl of the spoon.

    Scoop up some seed into the bowl.

    Hold the bowl over the area you want to place the seed.

    Gently tap the side of the bowl and it will shift the seed dropping a few out of the hole with each tap.

    I'm off to the drawing board.....

    ......junk drawer in the kitchen actually

    Monte-humming to himself

    Every thing old is new again!!!

  • 16 years ago

    Hey Monte,

    You not that old say, "hold into long enough and it will come back into fashion"?

    My daughter, now 26, thought a melon scoop was the "most awesome thing she had seen in a long time. It makes pretty balls of melons to serve."

    Her great grandma thought the same thing.

    ME?, I'm too lazy for that, just cut it up into chunks if fine for me.

    Besides, if I had been using them melon baller, that's what it was called when I was a kid, now has a fancy name called melon scoop, my friend would have never thought of using it for WS tiny seeds.

    Yup, us gardeners, come up with all kinds of things to use, and WS come up with some really good ones.

    Fran

  • 16 years ago

    Now I always thought a melon baller was the most ridiculous waste of good melon.

    I mean if you dig around seeking to get perfectly round balls you have a ton of unused melon left in the "shell".

    That's simply unacceptable.

    As far as my being old, if I add up the cumulative effects from all my injuries and bad habits/activities I'm probably about 6 months past dead.

    Just too distracted to lay down.

  • 16 years ago

    "Just too distracted to lay down"

    I read Monte's statement and a thought occurred to me. Can you imagine locking Monte and Token in a house together for a few day? All that energy would probably cause spontaneous combustion or something.

    I, on the other hand, am a very good sleeper. Is it time for a nap?

    Karen

  • 16 years ago

    Or maybe we would come up with the answer to the burning question of our time.......

    ........What if the Hokey Pokey is,what it's all about??

    Think about it.

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