Thank You Joanne!
That just cleared up my two reds (probably)...
What i thought was North Carolina, was actually Arkansas, And 'Pennsylvania' turned out to be North Carolina... - Apparently I was just under the impression it was really really dark, but the serrated leaves point the other way...
anyhow, whilst the latter grows really well for me, i doubt it is exciting enough to ever try and show....
However, those are the two seed parents for my first attempts at hybridizing, so even having a likely ID could come in handy down the road...

Karin

Pennsylvania is a star. North Carolina appears to be a pansy (somebody correct if I'm wrong on NC). I was double-checking my Pennsylvania id, although some of it is based on the assumption that they are likely to load up Pennsylvania with "Pennsylvania."

I have seen other reds at Lowe's from time to time but never try to figure out what they are.

There's one of the red Optmaras that other hybridizers have used quite a bit. It might be California but could be Colorado (was a "c").

Diana

I was just looking at user photos on MyViolet and the Optimara facebook trying to be certain that I do have Pennsylvania! The thing is that it was in a 6" pot and mostly it is not supposed to be a 6" pot one. I would not have called the leaves round.

It does appear to be Pennsylvania. On June 12, the Optimara photo of bloom types also shows Pennsylvania and Delaware side by side and there is a definite color difference and also a difference in the blossom shape. I would call Pennsylvania burgundy red (to my eye). Clementine looks shaped just like Pennsylvania in that photo. Delaware always looks a little more "ruffly" in photos anyway.

That is helpful, Joanne, but they sure omitted a good many :)

I see some ruffled one at Lowe's but since I don't collect reds, it doesn't matter. Maybe I see more than one ruffled one for that matter.

Diana

Hi, Karin, It will be interesting to see the results . J

This post was edited by fortyseven on Sun, Jun 15, 14 at 15:29