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Dark Orange Perennials for zone 5

17 years ago

I'm looking for dark orange (not peach) perennials for my zone 5 garden. Prefer tall plants. Currently I have:

- daylilies

- asiatic lilies

- tiger lilies

- gaillardia

- maltese cross

- oriental poppies

- red hot poker plant

- blackberry lily

- helenium

What am I missing? What would look good here?

This is my barn bed. I want to rip out some of that gold (too samey) and add orange to spice it up.
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Comments (21)

  • 17 years ago

    Echinacea 'Tiki Torch' would be great in this bed. I love this plant!

    Also:

    Achillea 'Fireland'
    Asclepias turberosa
    Phlox 'Orange Perfection'

    What about a Tall Bearded Iris?

  • 17 years ago

    I know you said that you had some daylilies but here are 3 of my orange
    Henna copper,Paprika Velvet (still blooming)and Jambalaya
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  • 17 years ago

    Hemerocallis 'Bold Tiger'. It's an orange lover's dream.

  • 17 years ago

    I think your garden is perfect as is!

    You would have to lift it in the winter, but canna would be great there with the wide leaves.

    Dahlias (like 'Vulkan') are another idea, but again - lift in winter.

    I saw Ligularia Dentata Desdemona Golden Groundsel at Blowing Rock, NC recently and thought is was great! Big leaves, too. Maybe it won't need as much shade in your zone.

    I'm a big fan of agastache and have been thinking about trying 'Orange Flare' that grows to 36" high.

    Ratibida columnifera (Red Mexican Hat) is pretty cool. I'm trying a yellow one this year to see if it escapes the attention of deer.

    What about sowing orange cosmos seeds?

    How about an ornamental grass like panicum virgatum 'Shenandoah'?

    Here is a link that might be useful: canna orange punch

  • 17 years ago

    Or how about Primal Scream? I hear a lot about that one on the daylily forum! :) It's very bright!

  • 17 years ago

    I know this is an annual, not a perennial, but when you said tall and orange, the first thing I thought of was Tithonia.

    One of my favorite orange flowers isn't tall, but it's a great spring/early summer bloomer, Geum 'Fireball. The picture makes it look like a soft orange, but it is actually a nice, bright true orange.

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    You mentioned that you had Gaillardia. The 'Oranges & Lemons' looks really good with Asclepias tuberosa, though that's not tall either.

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    The other thing that comes to mind isn't dark orange, but it would help blend the golds, and oranges together, and that's Achillea 'Terra Cotta'

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    I also have Agastache 'Apache Sunset', it's fairly tall, but it is a bit on the peachy side. Agastache 'Apricot Sprite' is more of a dark orange, but it isn't very tall, only 18" - 24".

    I'll be checking back to see what other ideas everyone comes up with. Thanks for starting this thread!

    Bonnie

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for all the ideas!

    Echinacea Tiki Torch - it looks beautiful, but isn't this one of those new ones that really isn't hardy in zone 5, despite the tags saying it is. I think I read a long thread on this forum bashing the hardiness of the new echinaceas, and I'm not sure Tiki Torch is really hardy. If it is, then I must get one!

    Asclepias tuberosa - looks like a winner. Must locate one now.

    Achillea Fireland - also looks suitable, if I can find one. I have other yarrows here that thrive, but of course they are that same shade of gold as everything else. Is this the clumping type, or the wildly spreading type (millefolium)

    phlox orange perfection - never heard of an orange phlox. Is it really orange - or pink? Google image search shows both. Would be unique.

    daylilies - I have one that looks just like your henna copper, and several other oranges. Wasn't going to buy any more oranges, but I did see Primal Scream on a garden tour and it was a showstopper. Next year I might splurge on that one.

    cannas - I had tons of the dark leaved ones, then 2 years ago we had a very early hard freeze (18 iches of snow in early October!) and I lost them all. I loved them, but it's a lot of work to dig and replant every year.

    tithonia I got one in a swap this spring, but it is still small, not sure if it's our cool, wet weather or if it's just a slow grower. Would like something that blooms now to go with all that gold.

    dahlias I have some, but the nice dark orange ones don't overwinter well in the basement. The orange and yellow mix do survive happily, but they are not as showy.

    geum I have one, but it keeps getting lost with it's more aggressive neighbors. In fact, I better go see what happened to it, since I don't recall seeing it this year.

    panicum - I once read an article that said "don't panicum" because they supposedly self-seed everywhere and that scared me off. Opinions on this grass? It looks like it might work.

    Gotta go now, more later.

  • 17 years ago

    Hi Brenda!
    Lots of good things suggested here. I will also add that a Crocosmia would work wonderfully. May different ranges of color, though I think 'Emily McKenzie' might be the truest orange for your zone.

    How about an orange vine growing up one of those barn posts? Lonicera sempervirens (Trumpet Honeysuckle) is a non-aggressive native. It has tubular flowers that bloom in spring, but gets a second flush right about now. My 'Blanche Sandman' is a nice coral-orange.

    Would you consider a rose? I have three roses that are really orange. 'Marmalade Skies' (neon orange), 'Tuscan Sun' (varous shades of orange that fade to coppery pink), and a dark orange climber 'Blaze of Glory'.
    CMK

  • 17 years ago

    Isn't there a Helenium that is a mixture of orange, yellow, and red? That is pretty tall, and might work for you.

  • 17 years ago

    Phlox Orange Perfection is more salmon/coral in my opinion.

    I agree that Asclepias tuberosa is very orange.

    How about Lychnis x arkwrightii Vesuvias. Very dark foliage and very orange flowers. Quite striking.

    Helanium "Mardi Gras" is probably what highalttransplant was talking about. I saw it in a nursery the other day and it's quite pretty, a very nice blend of red, orange and yellow.

    Quick question for you, gottagarden. I assume the dark red at the bottom is a daylily. Do you know the cultivar? I have the perfect spot for that color.

  • 17 years ago

    I don't have panicum, but the flowers may be too pink for you. I've been thinking about adding it, but if it is a reseeder, no thanks! I'm still eradicating love grass seedlings.

    Cameron

  • 17 years ago

    gottagarden, if you can overwinter Kniphofia (Red Hot Poker), you should not have a problem with Echinacea 'Tiki Torch'. Plant a quality 1gal or similar in May, full sun and otherwise "lean and mean" (as with all Echinacea), and it will be a beauty!

  • 17 years ago

    "phlox orange perfection - never heard of an orange phlox. Is it really orange - or pink?" You are right to question it!! So far I have bought three of these and there is no orange whatsoever. More of a coral/pinkish hue. I would definitely choose something else from the above suggestions.

  • 17 years ago

    Be sure to check out the pictures of Primal Scream on the daylily forum under Hanson 2009 P-Z

  • 17 years ago

    I grow Red Hot Poker here with no problem and only 1 out of 4 Echinacea 'Tiki Torch' over-wintered for me here. If you can't find them in at least a gallon container, you might not get them to come back after winter. Terra Nova told me not to buy them smaller than one gallon size. If you get a smaller plant, you'll need to remove the blooms the first year. The plant tends to try and bloom when it is too small to support the blooms. The blooms are a very pretty color though, but your other plants are so healthy and full that it would probably get lost among them.

  • 17 years ago

    Hemerocallis 'Primal Scream' and 'Rocket City' are both about 3 ft. tall, and very strong orange colour. 'Rocket City' is an older cultivar (so much cheaper than 'Primal Scream') but an excellent one. 'Burning Daylight' is shorter and one of the parents of 'Primal Scream'. It is the same glowing orange as 'PS'. In your situation you could try some bright (true) red such as that shown by Crocosmia 'Lucifer'. It would help to take your eyes away from all that yellow. Definitely stay away from Phlox 'Orange Perfection'. It is a pretty coral pink that would clash badly with yellows, oranges and reds.

  • 17 years ago

    Geum coccineum Borisii is a lovely orange color, but is shorter than you may like at only 12-16 inches. It has attractive foliage, moderately good growth, does not flop, and is one of the few early orange flowers blooming in May for me.

    My Orange Perfection Phlox has a definite pink tone to it.
    It doesn't look bad with Black Eyed Susans, but was terrible looking with my Helenium Coppelia. Sorry for the funny picture, but the color is true.

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  • 17 years ago

    Gottagarden, on the Tithonia, I'd give it another try. Most varieties are 4' - 6' tall, but there's also a couple of compact varieties that are in the 2' - 3' range. They should start blooming by late July, but they are also drought tolerant, so if you've had a wet summer, that might explain why it's not doing well.

    Oh, and the Achillea 'Terra Cotta' starts out a burnt orange color, then fades to the dusky gold color, so there will be a blend of orange and gold when it's in bloom that would work really well in that bed.

    Just my 2 cents : )

    Bonnie

    Here is a link that might be useful: Tithonia @ Swallowtail Garden Seeds

  • 17 years ago

    In my zone 4 garden I have never seen a panicum seedling, but can't say in warmer zones.

  • 17 years ago

    I have a similar bed. I use Helenium Copellia and Helenium Indiansummer. I think both are darker than Mardi Gras. Also H. Moerheim Beauty is dark. Copellia is orange but slightly reddish.

    Daylily Franz Hall is yellow and orange bicolor.

  • 17 years ago

    I grow Oh so Easy Paprika Rose, and I think that would look great in your bed. The blooms are red-orange with a yellow eye and fade to coral here. I bet in your cooler climate they would keep their vivid color longer. It's a low and wide grower with beautiful blue-green foliage and blooms continuously all summer.

    It's a shame cupheas aren't hardy in your area. They would be perfect in your bed and give you a different flower form too.

    I have a an orange/yellow bed too, and I love purple-foliaged accent plants in it.