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Red rose for Zone 8a???

19 years ago

Hello;

Can anyone recommend a good, deep red that is resistant to blackspot and mildew? I would like one that either continues blooming or reblooms, a climber would be fine. A pic I saw on another thread was labeled Chateau de Clos Vougeot- it was a deep, velvety red w/ a pointed shape- very beautiful. William Shakespeare- gorgeous! Suggestions? Thanks! Brandy

Comments (13)

  • 19 years ago

    I think that Fields of the Wood is your best option (it is a climber, and you get to throw in fragrance, too). It isn't the easiest rose to secure from a vendor sometimes, but it's probably worth every effort. Failing that, maybe someone can root a cutting for you.

  • 19 years ago

    Cl etoile de holland, Cl Hadley are some others. I have Crimson Glory Climber, which is supposed to be an unhealthy rose. That's not my impression, but it does occasionally defoliate. Not an aggressive grower.Here's a pic from its spring flush when it was in Columbia SC- no spray. It has some summer rebloom, then a pretty good fall.
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  • 19 years ago

    What about Louis XVI or Dutch Fork China? Mine are doing well in my no-spray Rose Heyell, and both have nice red blooms and scent.

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks for the suggestions.
    that's a beautiful pic, jb. There were several Hadley's at Helpmefind. The sturdiest one looked like a burgundy red and very hardy as it said to zone 10, a possible. The Etoile... was not listed.
    I've never heard of Louis XVI or Dutch Fork China. I found a pic of the first at helpmefind.com Very attractive and scented but it does say it is a once-bloomer. That's a possibility. Fields of the Wood (where did that name come from???) is beautiful, any idea where I could find one? Fall is a good time to plant here. Thanks, Brandy

  • 19 years ago

    Fields of the Wood is a found rose, named for the place it was found - was it some kind of a church camp, or something like that? A number of people believe it might actually be 'Rhode Island Red', but the jury is still out.

    I know it's sold by Countryside Roses in Mississippi (in the hybrid tea section - sold out for now) and Vintage Gardens in California, and HelpMeFind.com lists Rogue Valley Roses in Oregon as another source. There could be others, perhaps Ashdown Roses in South Carolina might carry it.

  • 19 years ago

    Thank you for the list. I will check them out. Brandy

  • 19 years ago

    ARGH! If Louis XVI turns out to be a once-bloomer I shall be very annoyed... he is in a bed in front of the front porch and he darn well better put on a show!

  • 19 years ago

    Well, there's 'Louis XVI' and then there's 'Louis XIV'... the former is a once-bloomer and the latter is remontant, but it would be easy to switch two letters around and have a very mistaken identity.

  • 19 years ago

    William Shakespeare 2000 (not the other one) is one of the more disease resistant David Austin roses, but I can't vouch for it as a no-spray rose in the South. It's a nice shrubby plant with an excellent flower and repeats well for me. Maybe you need two red roses.

  • 19 years ago

    Thank you stefan, I found Louis XIV and it says blooms in flushes. The color variation in the photos at helpmefind is interesting- mostly a dark purply red, but 2 of them show a more true red. (Pagan, good luck to you- hope you got the rose you wanted). Anyway, I put in a request at Ashdown for them to start a Fields of the Woods for me. I have never ordered from them before but like that they are in SC- if it does well there, it ought to do well here. I might even try to get down there sometime to see their gardens... What a pleasant thought.... Brandy

  • 19 years ago

    Anybody have Martha Gonzales? That looks good- a smaller red repeat climber. W/ Ashdown's current sale- only 6.00!!! Hard to resist... Brandy

  • 19 years ago

    I have Martha Gonzales! Small (3x3), tidy, and generous repeat bloomer. Her blooms are simple singles, and the color is a rich red. No fragrance that I can detect.

    She takes the heat of a Texas summer and laughs as long as she gets a drink regularly. Excellent disease resistance. Dense foliage.

    I have her close to a sidewalk and she is quite mannerly in growth.

  • 19 years ago

    Thank you happy... The climbing version is described as under 10 ft. I'll plant it in front of or to the side of Ginger Syllabub. At least, Ginger is described as having a superb fragrance. It should make an eye-catching contrast. Brandy