It's an exquisite rose but could this really be a noisette? Not quite sure what noisette hybrid means but I gather it blooms only once. I noticed on HMF that it's mostly grown in colder areas and in truth I'd never heard of it before. What a thrill it must have been for you to see the first blooms, after three long years.

Ingrid

Hi Riku, how nice for you to have blooms at last. My three-year-old Areana El (or El Areana or Ariana!) hasn't started yet but it bloomed for the first time last summer. I've never heard that it should be classified as a noisette. Erich Unmuth, the Austrian expert on Geschwind roses (with Bill Grant of Aptos, CA) believes it is a long lost hybrid lutea.

Have you read Erich Unmuth on this rose rediscovered in Norway, and many other Geschwind roses?

Here is a link that might be useful: Unmuth on Geschwind roses

Thank you Ingrid and it is always a pleasure to have a rambler that maybe a bit iffy in my climate bloom - I chose carefully where I planted it to give it the best chance.

Hello Mariannese,

Thank you for the article, an interesting read. I started out with quite a few Geschwind's from the 2008 import.

Winter took it's toll on many - deceased - but I still have the following that appear to be doing alright - Alpenfee, Geschwind's Nordlandrose ll (Radoslavs tag name), Wenzel Geschwind (I think), Futtaker Schlingrose, Leopold Ritter, and Annachen Von Tharau (is very vigorous). And perhaps Ernst Dorrel - name tag lost issue at the moment. Unfortunately as far as I can tell in addition to Ariana, only Geschwind's Nordlandrose ll will bloom this year. I have been waiting a long time for a Nordlandrose to bloom as my Canadian version never has. And actually this version - no protection - had nearly 3/4 of it's cane length intact and healthy to start spring.

However all the others enjoy the same "characteristics of surviving" a winter unprotected where -30C occurred very early - night of December 13.

Leopold usually blooms - not from Europe but Canadian vendor - but it also went right to ground last winter.Gypsy Boy will not bloom but this is the 3rd try for this rose and 3rd vendor and was in a premium spot si I give up on it.

We had a terrible winter or rather the whole season from fall to spring. First the autumn was unusually warm and roses grew like crazy with no thought of the future. Then the snow fell suddenly and stayed all winter but the ground never froze under it. All shorter roses survived under four feet or more of snow and most other roses survived to the snowline but many taller roses died when the cold hit for weeks. Everything quite unusual for us. We had lots of canker on canes because it was so wet under the snow. I lost four climbing roses, American Pillar, Constance Spry, Climbing American Beauty, and New Dawn.

All Geschwind roses survived but are less than half their old size, coming back strongly though. Only one climber has flowered, Corporal Johann Nagy. Gruss an Teplitz, never tall here, has flowered as usual, as the only Geschwind. I am mad about this rose.

Placement is all-important. Secret Garden Musk Climber lives in its sheltered positition with very good drainage but I don't think it will flower this summer.

Terrible spring, wasn't it? My roses came through the winter better than usual, but hard freezing spring winds took most of my canes. Then the deer ate the tops out of the new growth.
I'm having good luck with Errinerung an Brod for cane survival, though I haven't seen a bloom yet. Gruss an Teplitz is doing alright-no roses yet.
Ash Wednesday(Kordes) went away, mostly. There is one cane left. And it was fine before. Zephirine Drouhin is dead after surviving ten years around here.
I tried Bleu magenta, which went to the ground every year, after reading about attempts to kill rosa multiflora at zone 2. Alchemist(crossed with rosa eglanteria) has gone to the ground here every year. I looked at those beautiful photos of Alchemist in Syracuse, New York on HMF and thought it might be all right here.
All of my roses are ungrafted and usually come back. I don't understand why Zephirine Drouhin died at all.
Ungrafted roses respond to cane loss by throwing a new sucker to the side.
Which can get you a few blooms usually.
I've only seen Theresa Bugnet, Harison's Yellow, and rosa xanthina get through the winter without cane loss.
Rosa setigera hybrids show some potential.
I am going to start to winter protect. It is just as much work to chop all these canes every spring.
Ariana is interesting. Wish there was a way to get it here.

I wonder if it means something particular that we should both have had such terrible rose seasons so far away from each other? Something definitely has happened to the climate in the last few years. At present we are in the middle of a heat wave with temps in the high 80ies (+32°C just now, at 6 pm) and no rain for more than a month. It may not be anything out of the ordinary in most parts of the US but it is in Sweden. We are not prepared and don't know how to handle it. Few gardeners have invested in drip irrigation and many who live in the countryside still have their own wells. We still have cheap communal water but I am tired of spending all my free time watering. I never water the grass but it is still too much for me.

Record wet spring here. It would have been great if it had rained and been warm. About a week ago I planted some marigolds. They froze, not enough to kill them.
They say the sun quit making sunspots three years ago, which it does now and then.
Here's an article about it.

Here is a link that might be useful: Sunspots

The farmers in the southern portion were two weeks behind due to the fields being too wet. In 4th week of May it snowed and stayed for a few days before disappearing - but I must add, to my personal delight, I was in Waikiki when it snowed - what a sick joke to come home to the remains - this is the latest I have seen it in my 13 years here. Then 2 weeks later my specific area gets hammered by a hailstorm - very localized these storms but not unusual - all the broad leaf plants and peonies foliage is scarred white and the ligularis and hosta were mangled. Fortunately the crab apples were able to bloom between lousy periods so they will be full. About the only hardy rose I have that has bloomed really really well is William's Double Yellow.

Normally I should see my Hybrid teas begin the real full flush in the 3rd week of July. I think the main flush will be weak unless I get more heat. By the way the first bloom of Nordlander rose began to unfurl today.

We've never gotten large hail here in my memory,(55) but we did this year. Thousands of windows and car windows busted. Got a tornado in Billings. It took out their big auditorium.
What's left of Leda, rosa centifolia, Celsiana, Alba Maxima,Madame Plantier, Chloris, Konigen von Danemark, and Madame Hardy are blooming today.
I spend a lot of time studying rose parents trying to get hardy roses but the effort doesn't really pay off. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to it.
I have one, Green mantle, which makes a tiny bit of blossom around the bottom every year.
Chloris and Konigen von Danemark are really beautiful, though. The thornless canes of Chloris really make her a joy. I think I'm going to root some cuttings and get her going more places around the yard.

Kaylah, the gods are angry with me ... no sooner do I right those words about hail than we get another storm today while I am at work with the 07 vehicle at the pool lot 5 miles away ... optimistic estimate ... redo the hood,never mind the roof. Surprisingly my garden shows no damage as is the nature with these localized storms. By the KvD is hit or miss for me, but it is in the north garden and coldest side - last to thaw in spring. Lost one of my two this spring.

Hello, I came across this page when searching for the Ariana rose. I have been searching everywhere trying to get hold of one for my daughter of the same name. Does anyone know if these are still available commercially?