I'm looking forward to see what the next Vintage listing. That may be the fall order something.

I'm looking forward to see what the next Vintage listing. That may be the fall order something.

I have a 1 gal Annie Laurie McDowell waiting for September's cooler weather at LongAgo Roses. Can't wait to get her in the mail.

Will also be receiving my order from Vintage in September.
Aimable Rouge
Marie de St. Jean
Eulalie Lebrun
ORG Renae Seedling
Paul's Early Blush
Elie Beauvilain

Of course I'll see what Vintage's next release will have too.

And then they'll be the fall sale at the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden and the rose sale at the Sacramento Cemetery conference.

Note to self: restraint is required.

Diane

After telling myself that I was not going to add any more roses to my collection until I have my garden and the pot village under better control ... a box arrives in the mail last week, containing the roses that I won at the CCRS auction earlier in the year. I totally forgot that I didn't already receive these.

I did well, thanks to some careful management of my $$$ by my trusty proxy, and I came away with some treasures.

Paul Ecke, Jr.
Julia's Rose
Ladybug
Emma May
Honoho-no-nami
Capitain Basroger
Santa Catalina

It could get ugly while I'm in Sacramento for the symposium. I'm already planning to flat-pack packaging material in my suitcase so I can ship any roses I may get.

Connie

mmm, well this is the main bare root season so, despite being a bit broke, I have ordered another spinossisima (problems spelling either this or pimpinellifolia)'marbled pink', another hulthemia, bright as a button (but called something different for you guys), another Hebe's Lip, (for my daughter), Golden Wings (for spouse), Royal celebration (a weeks purple) and Violette Hood. Got Dawn Crest and Alden Biesen coming from Holland too.
Buying seeds and just did another tulip order (must be over 3000 at the allotment now - it looks truly fantastic in April/May since they love my rubbish soil and sunny aspect (the allotment's sunny aspect, that is, definately not mine).
Planning a huge delphinium and dianthus year next summer (where things are always going to be so much better).

I have beauties coming from Vintage and RU and had planned
on trying to get a handle on this new addiction. And then the Duquesa I got from Rose Petals a couple months ago put out it's first bloom. BIG TROUBLE! I decided that it made good sence to have some "insurance" in the event that something would happen to this treasure and did what any reasonable person would do.... I ordered two more. Inasmuchas Rose Petals had 9 available, I was very proud of myself for showing such restraint. As a reward, I ordered a Veilchenblau, Sweet Chariot, White Pet and The Fairy :>)

All the roses I selected in Vintage's latest release have been confirmed:

Julia Mannering (sweetbriar)
Grace de Monaco (hybrid tea)
Micrugosa Alba (species cross)
Princesse Marie (hybrid sempervirens rambler)
Francois Foucard (hybrid wichurana rambler)--a little risky as wichuranas haven't been my best performers
Alba Odorata (hybrid bracteata)
maybe a few more depending on what is in the next release--want species, eglantines, albas, bourbons, or hybrid perpetuals

From Forestfarm I have on order:

Rosa Rugosa Alba (2!)--it was magnificent with an unforgettable unique fragrance at Cliff Orent's Eurodesert, and I tried rugosas at my house for the first time this year, and they appear to love conditions in my garden (sandy loam)

Eriogonum elatum - Siskiyou Wild Buckwheat
Eriogonum umbellatum Kannah Creek
These wild buckwheats are for native California butterflies which use the plants as food and the flowers for nectar.
I will probably select more species from Forestfarm as the shipping date approaches. Their "tubes" are the equivalent of band sizes elsewhere, their selection of species roses is fantastic, and their prices are very competititive (less than $10 for a tube).

From Annie's Annuals, no roses, but rather companions for them:

Thalictrum rochebrunianum "Lavender Mist" meadow rue
Anchusa azurea "Alkanet"
Eriogonum nudum "Ella Nelson's Yellow"--waiting for it to come in stock
Linaria purpurea "Alba"
Ugni molinae âÂÂChilean GuavaâÂÂ

High Country Roses:

Suzanne (spinosissima)--been on waiting list for months so should get her this fall
And will probably order a few more when she's available as empty space in a box is a terrible thing to waste.;)

Heirloom Roses:
waiting for the Eurodesert Roses to become available, which should be anytime now......but I have 3 on hold:
Siwa (hybrid canina)
Nymphe Tepla (hybrid setigera/multiflora)
Kraskoje Kawaskole (gallica)

Pickering:

waiting for orders to open up in September
planning on getting an Austin (sans rose mosaic virus), 3 or 4 rugosas, a couple spinosissimas and hybrid perpetuals

Melissa

Belle, I've also ordered Marjorie Palmer, in addition to Earth Song, ORG Renae, Leveson-Gower, and I'm waiting for the Vintage autumn list for hopefully another great rose.

I've got White Maman Cochet and Tipsy Imperial Concubine coming from Rose Petals. I also bought another Leveson Gower from Long Ago Roses. That one does so well for me.

For this fall, I think I'll concentrate on my replacement order (plus new buys, of course) from an Orchard nursery I went with in the spring.

I will order from Vintage, though, because they have a rose available that I've wanted for years and years.

*** If anyone in NC (etc) wants to split a Vintage order to save on shipping and Ag fees, please let me know! It looks like I'll probably buy four, but that could easily be 5 or 6 if shipping didn't jump up so much at intervals :D

I could even send a bunch of cuttings of my other roses if I need to mail on a Vintage buy (or vice versa) :D That would be very fun!

Melissa, your Fall orders look like mine did last Fall! Lot's of fun though!

Connie, That Ladybug rose is just too cute! I wish it was in commerce, but I don't see it listed anywhere on HMF :(

So far (yes, so far) I've been reasonable in my ordering. I only have one fall order placed with Rogue Valley:
Sir Clough (a lesser known DA)
Vick's Caprice (tried 3 times to root this one, I gave up)
Sunshine (a cute orange polyantha)

I also have a Spring Vintage order placed:
Serratipetala
Francois Coppee
Tip-Top
Emily Gray
Fruhlingsduft
William Jesse
Really excited about some of these, and to see what they offer on their next release!

I also have some credit on my Pickering account from a plant that didn't break dormancy, so I'll place a fall order with them as well. ...and while I'm at it, might as well fill up the box ;)

Tammy

I requested shipping be delayed until April, and will be adding to my order if more on my list come up. As of right now, this is what I have coming from Vintage:

Mlle. Blanche Lafitte (Bourbon)
Mme. Dore (Bourbon)
Sophie's Perpetual (Bourbon, according to Vintage)

Souvenir du Dr. Jamain (Hybrid Perpetual)

Night , Lady Sackville (Hybrid Tea)
Crimson Glory VID (Hybrid Tea)

Blanc de Vibert (Portland)
Rose du Roi -- original (Portland)

Jaune Desprez (Tea-Noisette)

I got way too many pinks. So I buy more purples, yellow, and orange. From Burlington Roses, CA for April delivery:

Kim Rupert's purple polyantha "Lauren", it won in the cut-flower division, looking forward to a vase.

Stephen's Big Purple - this stands up to 100 degrees Texas heat, ought to good in my zone 5a hot summer.

Two Annie Laurie McDowell - one more so I can inhale her lilac-lavender scent. My sister wants one, my neighbor wants one ... everyone sees her, falls in love. It's hard to find a rose 100% smooth like Annie.

Old Port - almost thornless purple floribunda with OGR swirly many-petals look

From Linda at LongAgoRoses in NC:

Well-being: this is a Harkness rose that I want a long time: fragrant, many petals, yummy like Jude the Obscure, but deeper yellow.

Folklore: I need fragrant orange for the vase.

Kim Rupert's Porcelain Vase: 100% thornless, looks like a pink daffodil, should be drought-resistant and mildew-free.

I also buy roses from Robert Neil Rippletoe, since I want to test his new creations in my zone 5a, after learning that his climate is hot & dry, with alkaline water/soil like mine. I feel in love with his GLOWING-BLUE creation, CAROPMIXAURJOB - it glows like a blue neon-light, fragrant, and almost thornless. Check out the link below:

Here is a link that might be useful: Robert Neil's glowing-blue rose

I almost bought Robert Neil's creation, Bohemian Rhapsody during Roses Unlimited sale for $8, but regret terribly that I did not, I bought Queen-of-Sweden instead, and found it shatters one day in a vase. Robert was generous enough to give me a second chance. Bohemia Rhapsody has a great sweet-pea fragrance, almost thornless, deep fuchsia pink, would be even more petals in my cool and wet spring/fall.

Check out this velvelty red rose, JACXSMO. Nice new red color.

Here is a link that might be useful: Robert Neil's deep red rose

Disclaimer: Robert Neil doesn't make any profits, nor sell his roses to people. He chooses the place where he wants his roses to be tested, and I pay for shipping charges. Roses Unlimited sells his Bohemian Rhapsody.

My zone 5a was chosen since I have 4 seasons: cool and wet spring/fall, dry heat early summer, humid heat late summer, and brutal -20 degrees below winter. Plus the 40 mph wind factor here. Theoretically roses get mildew in dry heat, and BS in humid heat. My soil is heavy alkaline clay, well water high in lime, which discourages diseases.

There's another of Robert's creation that I like: JOXPB, deep red, with many petals. His glowing blue creation CAROBMIB is a descendant of Kim Rupert's Joyberry with a great old rose scent. Below is another Robert Neil's creation yellow with red tinge:

Here is a link that might be useful: Yellow HT-form with red tinge rose

I'm always thrilled to hear about everyone's new roses, many of which I've never heard of before.

Ingrid, forgot to say "woo hoo" on the Marjory Palmer. I think the breeder was in a warm part of Australia, so it might be decently suited to our hot climates. I think the light pink sport, Alister Clark, is even prettier. How about you? I wonder if we can somehow find it here in the U.S. or get it brought over. If MP lives up to the expectations, that is.

Well, I've now added Stephen's Big Purple, Souvenir de la Malmaison and Devoniensis from Burlington Roses. There is no hope for me.....But what the heck, we have to keep these wonderful rose businesses going.

AquaEyes, I think you're going to love Mme. Dore. I have two, and they're lovely. My bushes have stayed small, which I really like.

Belle, I haven't seen Alister Clark available, but that's not to say it isn't. You really mustn't tempt me, you know.

Ingrid

Hurray! I finally heard from Heirloom today that the Eurodesert roses I've been waiting to get from them for months will ship next week:

Siwa (hybrid canina)
Nymphe Tepla (hybrid setigera/multiflora)
Kraskoje Kawaskole (gallica)

There was a long delay because the Eurodesert roses arrived from Vintage in such poor condition it took months of rehabilitation to bring them back to health. I can understand this as although my last fall's shipment from Vintage was just as big and healthy as usual (over years of buying from them) the spring shipment this year was not. Grandmother's Hat arrived as little more than a barely rooted twig, and I also had to spend months rehabilitating it. And I wasn't able to get another rose I wanted because they told me the entire crop of that rose had perished. So I hope whatever problems existed at Vintage have been corrected because I have a fall order coming and ultra tiny bands like GH was would not be good.

Melissa

Melissa, are the Euro Desert roses on Heirloom's website? I didn't see them last time I was on their site...

Tammy

Hi Tammy,

No they aren't. The inventory isn't in the database yet either. I had specific roses in mind that I knew had gone to Heirloom because when I tried to add them to my last Vintage order I couldn't as I learned to my surprise they weren't at Vintage any more. It was pure accident that I found out so soon. So I contacted Heirloom about the 3 I have ordered now and got repeated updates.

You should take some credit for this purchase because it was your post on the Roses forum about a sale at Heirloom (hadn't checked my email box yet for the announcement) that caused me to write again and ask about the status of Siwa, Nymphe Tepla, and Kraskoje Kawaskole. So thanks!

Once the inventory is up on Heirloom's website, I am likely to buy more. I was fortunate enough to see Eurodesert while it was still open, and my selections are highly influenced by what I learned by observing that garden. I'm still having sensory overload trying to absorb the information gained during my visits. Remembering thousands of roses sure isn't easy--even with looking at the thousands (yep THAT many) of photos I took. Some roses really stood out and feature in my choices now. Those visits also changed the way I grow roses, or rather opened my mind to classes that I'd never really considered before, such as species and/or roses which are the result of unusual crosses.

Melissa

Thanks for replying Melissa. I remember hearing a few months ago that Heirloom was taking over the roses from Euro Desert. I'm sure with the gardens that Vintage has to maintain, its overwhelming for them. The only thing I'm confused about, is that I thought Heirloom mainly bought their budwood from outside sources, while Vintage & Euro Desert hand propagate from mother plants. I'm curious to see how that all works out (but I may be mistaken about Heirloom)

I really wish we had larger rose gardens closer to my area. I'm so envious of everyone out in California with all of the historic cemeteries and other rose gardens such as in San Jose. The only one that I'm aware of in the Knoxville area is the Univ of TN Gardens, and to be honest, I grow about 350-400 more varieties than they do LOL :)

Happy to be your enabler by the way :) I have a quite a few of them myself on here! oh...and I just received my roses today from Heirloom's sale...they all look very healthy! Now I need to go find some 1g containers to move them into (forgot to order them ahead of time...oops!)

Tammy

I keep trying to add to my order at Vintage, but their system is so slow and then finally comes up with an error. There are only a few there that I'd like that I can't find elsewhere, so I think I'll wait for the dust to clear and keep my fingers crossed.

:-)

~Christopher

Hi Tammy,

As far as I know, Heirloom also propagates using the same methods as Eurodesert and Vintage--from cuttings taken from their mother plants. I'm not sure if I understand your budwood comment as Heirloom sells own-root roses. I did however, find this on their website that mentions that they occasionally sell a "stock plant" in their nursery (not anything they ever ship) that was purchased from a source that "monitors for rose virus", see here, http://www.heirloomroses.com/about/

And the link below is a picture of Heirloom Roses on Helpmefind. I've never been but I assume in addition to the greenhouses, there are also shown fields where they grow roses (mother plants located there????).

Back to the topic of fall purchases, I have on order now, but not shipping until February 2013 also these newly-imported roses from Angel Gardens, Florida. I try to spread my orders around!

Mme. Letuve de Colnet
Annapurna
Florence Ducher
Marie Robert

I'm still deciding on which species to add to my October shipment from ForestFarm. They've just added to their availability list R. setigera which is tempting, and that is my problem--too many roses they have I like.

Melissa

Here is a link that might be useful: Aerial view of Heirloom Roses

Connie,

I'd love to hear more about your rose, Honoho-no-nami and how it does. When I found it on HMF I thought the name was hilarious (with the alternate on HMF, Ho No-o-no-nami, being even funnier) because I have a friend with a dog whose call name is Nonami.;) Nonami has a big long registered name, but coming up with a call name had us all wracking our brains, and she started being called "No Name" and that morphed into Nonami which has stuck.

Here is a picture of Nonami (she's a Kuvasz btw), Ch. Glacier Creek's PGE Zuiderzee Adventure winning Best of Breed at Ventura, CA in July 2010.

Melissa

This might be off topic, but does anyone know when Pickering Nurseries will have their 2013 catalog online? Were there supposed to be any final season roses offered this year from Pickering Nurseries?