Susan -- That's a good question. There are others who can answer it more technically, but basically, the answer is NO.

Some breeders, historically, have kept their crosses confidential, to prevent someone else duplicating their work. Their caution was probably unnecessary. With all the seeds produced from a cross, and all of the various roses in a rose pedigree, you may expect to get SIMILAR roses, but not identical ones.

It's sort of like my Long-Coat Dalmatian, Becket. (See below) His brother Bert is short-coated. Genes are tricksy things.

For fun, go to HMF, and check the parentages of:
'Mister Lincoln'
and
'Papa Meilland'
:-)

There's a "found" rose in the San Juan Bautista State Historic Park that we suspect is an un-released sister-seedling to 'Francis E. Lester.' Similar -- but not exactly the same.

Of course, you might get something else that you liked just as much.

Jeri

Jeri, how about I just take Becket? How gorgeous! I've never seen a Long Coat Dalmation.
I've never understood genetics really. Never took it in school, even in college.
Thanks for shedding a bit of light!
Duh....I didn't even consider the gene pool of the parents and all who came before them.
I should just stick to digging holes and enjoying the beauty!
Temptation sounded really nice.
Susan

Susan -- No WAY you're getting Mr. Becket away from his dad. ;-)

Let me say, if you ever become a breeder of dogs, you need some understanding of basic genetics. (Becket's breeder apparently lacks that.) I find doggie genetics far easier than rose genetics, but dog pedigrees help me to a basic understanding of rose pedigrees.

And Becket's parents both have boringly-conventional short coats. :-)