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19 years ago

This is for a short pillar in a constrained, prominent space.

-7 x 4 x 4 at a path juncture. 4' wide really is the max. I am willing to mess with it frequently.

-Flexible shrub or flexible short climber.

-Little or no balling.

-Repeats pretty well.

-Some spot resistance.

Comments (12)

  • 19 years ago

    I have four climbing minnies along a wall. In their hayday, they were fabulous, but have been devistated by deer for a few years now. My plan is to move them to our back deer fenced garden and put them on those teepees, or what ever you call them, I think they would lend themselves well. I just hope they survive this season.

    Just a thought for you. I will try and find out their names if you are interested
    Pauline - Vancouver Island.

  • 19 years ago

    How about Rosarium Uetersen. It's a shrubby climber. Mine is only a couple of years old so is still small, maybe 3'. It is supposed to get to 11' but like most estimates it may be a little optimistic.

    The foliage is small and glossy, no BS and the canes are flexible. Very hardy here but you don't need that. The flowers are fabulous, many petals and a sort of cerise color. According to QR it repeats well. So far mine was profuse in the spring but has yet to bloom again. Fragrance is medium

  • 19 years ago

    Quadra, if you wrap it around pillar and also do some prunning could be a good choice. It is very healthy (no spray)and has excellent repeat. The drawback is that it has no fragrance.
    olga

  • 19 years ago

    My suggestion would be Flutterbye. No balling, but it is a single. Never seen a spot of BS in 5 years. Mine gets to be about 6 feet X 4 feet here in Mich. Blooms are very similar to Mutabalis in that they change colors as they age. and they repeat very well. Very nice plant.

  • 19 years ago

    Frontenac. ItÂs bushy and extremely disease resistant  no spray no bs here, always blooming and showing golden stamen. The canes can grow to 6 or longer. ItÂs bred for the cold climate so dieback would be no problem there. Quite fragrant to my nose.

  • 19 years ago

    Papi Delbard - mine is on a Monet umbrella trellis so he is more restrained than your allocated space.- except on the top, that is, on the umbrella. I don't spray it and I do not remember ever spraying it in three year I have had this rose.. Papi D. likes regular watering to repeat well as most climbers do in my experience. The plant has huge (spicy) fragrant blooms - I didn't see two blooms that were exactly the same in terms of color. Despite the large petal count it never balled. Only drawback is that flowers do not have good vase life.

    You probably have this rose but in case you donÂt - Compassion is a great rose with delicious fragrance. Repeat is good, the plant is healthy and you can train it on an obelisk or grow it as a tall shrub. In the space you have this rose probably do better trained on a tutor or obelisk

    Prosperity is a good bloomer with flexible canes and healthy here. I wrapped it around an obelisk that is max 2' wide. But again, I am sure you already have this rose.

    Laguna is also healthy (so far) but I do not know much about the repeat yet. We missed most of the first flush and the rose wasnÂt deadheaded till we got home. I think I deadheaded it in the second week of July. It started blooming last week again but I didn't walk through my yard in this horrid weather this week. It has flexible canes as Colette and will need some kind of structure because the arching canes cover a few other low growing roses by now. So far the flowers are not very big but it is a first year plant and the drought is disastrous. (We get thunder without a drop of rain.)

    Floral Fairy tale is a shrub not a climber. . Probably the best rose of the many I ordered and planted this spring. Repeat is excellent; it is fragrant. Deadheading is a must. It is screaming of health:: no balling, no spots of any kind and repeats fast or rather continuously . But Floral Fairy tale is a newcomer I my yard, and I know that in your opinion it does not mean a lot if a rose is healthy in the first year (I agree) . I hoped that it would stay low but it is has 5' tall canes in this extreme drought. I cannot say if it will reach 7Â.or not. It might be wider what you want, I must check how wide it is. The flowers last more in vase than on the bush but new buds keep coming.

  • 19 years ago

    Take a look at Valentine's Day, Michael. It is a deep velvet red mini-flora climber which has almost precisely those dimensions. It grows fast, has dark green fairly healthy foliage, and blooms in clusters with frequent re-bloom. I got mine when it was released by Weeks last year, and garden visitors frequently ask about it - even though it is not in a prominent place.

  • 19 years ago

    Floral Fairy tale is out. It is already about 5' wide.

  • 19 years ago

    Check into What a Peach. Here in Mi. mine is about five
    to 6 foot high. Thats above normal for zone 6. Mine is
    narrow but, that's because I trained it that way. It
    should spread to 4 ft. A cute little bush. Small leaves.
    Cute little peach colored flowers. And boy does it put out
    the roses.

    John

  • 19 years ago

    These are great suggestions including some I would not have thought to consider. Thank you all.

    I had been thinking about Papi Delbard and wondered if it is too vigorous or stiff for the spot. I did see one picture where it seemed to be wrapped on something and was flowering all the way down to the base. Do others find this one blackspot-resistant?

    What other comments on the roses mentioned or other suggestions? I have Rosarium Uetersen and am familiar with Prosperity, Flutterbye, and Compassion

  • 19 years ago

    How about Crown Princess Margareta? This rose has flexible canes like Colette, definitely aspires to be a short climber, quite healthy in the Austin category. I didn't notice balling flowers yesterday after a long night rain (at long last!) but I check the condition of the blooms today again. My plant in its second year repeats quite well, just started its third flush last week. The colors are very beautiful pale yellow and the interior petals are very soft apricot. I didn't see the strong yellows shown on some photos posted on HMF. My CPM is a J&P "new generation" rose and in its second year.

    If you consider shrubs beside climbers you may want to look at Scent-Sation. One of my most productive shrubs and is quite healthy. Although it is a HT it flowers like a continuous blooming floribunda. The flowers last longer in vase than on the bush but new buds and flowers keep coming. I try to keep it at 5' but could be taller if I didn't take long stem cut flowers or didn't deadhead so deep.

  • 19 years ago

    I double checked: Crown Princess Margareta didn't ball at all. Abe Darby blooms would be toast from half of that amount of rain.