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14 years ago

Could an old garden rose or antique grow (happily) in a long rectangular wooden planter box? Lowes has pretty one for $59. It's already stained.

My front yard garden - everything in the ground

I would like a few roses such as Reine des Violettes or Comte de Chambord in my backyard.

The problem? 2 overly pee-happy doggies! Everything gets a good sprinkle - small Mexican lime tree, peach tree, 4 young Crape Myrtles (Catawba & Osage). I have lots of black mulch around. Maybe it will not penetrate deeply.

guilty party: 1 Chihuahua & a overly possessive Bichon Frise

I was thrilled to receive a tiny Eden plant(own root). It's protected with chicken wire. I picked a spot directly in front of our brand new tool shed's porch column.

Hopefully, she will climb!

Comments (14)

  • 14 years ago

    How deep is the planter? It would need to be very big and deep to hold her. I grew Reine des Violettes in a very large pot for about 4 years and it did great. The only problem was that she gets very tall! She has very dense growth and the wind would catch her like a sail and tip her over all the time. I did have a small trellis inside the pot but eventually RdV just out grew it and I had to find a home for her in the ground.

  • 14 years ago

    I would prune any rose that is unmanageable (even if it was planted in the ground).

    12"x H x 40"W x 12"D

  • 14 years ago

    12" deep won't work. I killed my first Mini's in a box like that -- much less big roses. Also, wood deteriorates. By the time the rose matures, the. Box will be crumbling. From personal experience, I advise you not to try it.

    Jeri

  • 14 years ago

    That seems like awfully severe pruning, mauvegirl. I don't think any OGR would be happy being pruned down that much.

    I didn't think of that, Jeri, but you are so right! If you're going to plant in containers make sure they won't disintegrate on you. It's really a pain to have to re-pot because the container fell apart.

    Another thing I forgot to mention is that all container grown roses will eventually need to be root pruned and re-potted with fresh soil. I have to do mine every 3 to 5 years depending on how vigorous the rose is. The warmer the zone, the faster they grow and the more often they need to be root pruned to keep them happy in a container.

  • 14 years ago

    It's not un-manageability -- it is that they would have no room for roots. Without roots, they will never grow or bloom well.
    That box is not suitable for roses.

    Jeri

  • 14 years ago

    Thank you very much!

    How bad is dog urine near the base of plants?

  • 14 years ago

    Mauve

    I think it makes more of a difference Male vs Female dogs.

    Could you get something you WANT pee on, that you could get your dog to tag first, then set out front to get other dogs to tag. Once it is back in the back yard, it should keep your dog busy. (I get the chihuahua issue-got one)

    I tried to keep one climber in a pot. We gave up and planted about a month ago and I can already see the difference in how happy the rose is.

  • 14 years ago

    We have had as many as 5 dogs, and as few as 1 -- briefly. The current count is 3 long haired Dalmatians -- 1 male, 2 females. And almost all Dals have high-acid urine.

    We cannot recall a time, EVER, when any rose was harmed by dog urine. Grass -- yes. Roses, no.

    Jeri

  • 14 years ago

    We also have indoor puppy pads. They still "baptize" plants, porch column, etc. Of course, where one goes, the other follows to also mark his territory!

    I attribute the acid/alkaline in the urine to the lime tree never producing limes. I now have new "acquisitions" (Crape Myrtles).

    They spread the wealth so to speak.

  • 14 years ago

    No. REALLY.
    I don't think urine from a couple of toy dogs could prevent a lime tree from bearing.

    They'd have to have bladders larger than their entire bodies, and even THEN . . .

    Jeri

  • 14 years ago

    I wonder why your lime does not bear fruit? I flowers and does not set? Or does it not flower?

    Do you have a lot of bees? Or is there some kind of crop that sprays to kill bees near by?

  • 14 years ago

    The lime tree is 2 + years old, maybe 4 limes when we bought it.

    It was the only tree in the new backyard besides 2 Plumerias that never flowered and then stayed sticks.
    I've recently added the Crape Myrtles. So the urine is not concentrated in the one tree anymore

    I will Google. I'm surprised that it wouldn't cause adverse effects.

    I once had 2 Plumerias that never flower and died.

    Different question: I've seen some grubs in my front yard. Do they affects roses or just kill grass?

  • 14 years ago

    You'd be in a marginal zone for Plumerias, I think.
    Even WE have some that don't bloom here, and will leave us soon. But there is a wide variety in Plumerias -- some bloom well here. Some not at all. We have them in the ground, though.

    But, trust me. Even when we have had multiple very large dogs -- multiple 24"-at-the-shoulder BIG dogs -- their urine did not affect plants.

    In fact, as our conditions are super alkaline, and our boys pee is highly acidic, we've always felt it might help. (I don't know that it helps, but it's a good thought -- and it does no visible harm.)

    Girls, now -- they can burn grass. If a perfect, velvety lawn is your heart's desire -- you don't want female dogs on it.

    Jeri

  • 14 years ago

    When I read about limes, they usually do not bear until their 3rd year, the first few limes might have been from the nursery practices trying to get some fruit on it to sell it. But if the plant is happy, like a rose, it is probably busy growing root system and storing energy.

    I have to admit, I have limes on both of the new trees I planted last spring. The trees were supposed to be 2-3 years old when I bought them? And we have a lot of citrus and bees on the lot, so that might have helped.