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Wintering Climber question for zone 5vers

18 years ago

For a tender new climber that's just now has a few canes reaching heights of 4' tall in IN, what would you do with a Baby Darling for winter? A lot of the bush is not that flexible to pull off and try to lay it down for the winter. Would you just continue to tie it up and try to wrap the whole bush in something or just heavily mulch the bottom of the bush up as high as you can?? This is an 8 month old rose.

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I appreciate your advice to pass on to my friend, thanks.

Leslie

Comments (10)

  • 18 years ago

    I'm in z5. I put down a little steer manure in November, make sure the ground is frozen solid before mulching. That does it for all of my roses. I have one 7b rose and even wrapping the bush won't keep it from dying to the ground.....that said....if it's a wimp.....it will regrow in the spring. (note: the purpose of mulching is to keep the rose frozen, to keep it from thawing out, it's the thawing and refreezing that kills roses in our area).

  • 18 years ago

    I live in zone 5 and no experience with that rose. I have 4 climbers and all I do is put a little straw around the base. I have done this for years and have good luck. There are certain types that will die back to the ground....but I only have one that does that.

  • 18 years ago

    I appreciate both your responses, so you're saying you wait for freezing weather before mulching at all?

    This is an own root rose that I got for her as a small 4" band last Jan. If the top dies back it should regrow from the roots with enough insulation, I would think.

    Thanks again,
    Les

  • 18 years ago

    Yes - you are supposed to let the rose get fully cold hardened before applying mulch. She could also bind the canes together to prevent snow from breaking them. Then she could wrap the whole thing with burlap to try and get more cane to survive... She could try piling some bagged leaves around the base as well. It all depends on how much work she wants to do, though it still may die back or canker (and then die back later in Spring).

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks for the additional info. This is her first rose and her baby, I think she'll do whatever she thinks she can do to help it through the winter. This and a twig of a hybrid rugosa I sent that is now big enough to be in a small pot are the start of her rose garden she hopes to add to next spring:)

    I appreciate your help and will pass it all on.

  • 18 years ago

    In zone 5, unless you have one of the very few climbers thay don't die back, it's a given you'll lose most or all the canes by spring. I use oak leaves around my climbers. That portion of the cane covered by the leaves, usually only 1-4 inches, stays green. The rest of it is lost.
    The all come back strong and bloom by early June.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks for the advice Karl, this is why I put the pic on. These are mostly thin tender little canes and foliage at this point still. I was afraid of that and good to know they should come back.

    So, I'd ask you another question, if you were going to move that rose to it's permanent place, would you do it now or in the spring?? The ladder was just a temporary fix as a support also until it grew taller next year also, BTW.

  • 18 years ago

    Moving any plant in the fall is a bad idea. Spring is the best time to move a rose. Another poster mentioned "all" climbers die to within 4" of the ground. Yes, if it's a large heavy cane that is pretty much true(exceptions always occur). My experience is that a small cane climber like the one in the picture will not have "any" die back.

  • 18 years ago

    Les I live in Central Il and I don't do anything to my mini climbers. If some leaves blow in ok but I don't touch it at all as well as my minis and mine do fine. I have two mini climbers Jeannie Lajoie and Hi Ho

  • 18 years ago

    Wait until spring to transplant and try to do it before the leaves sprout.