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Striped roses beautiful or clownish?

11 years ago

On Petrovic Roses site I saw a beautiful photo of Village Maid. The washed out roses appealed to me, not sure if I like the strong stripes and blotches in other photos. The fat round buds were cute.
I could take a marker and draw on Souvenir de la Malmaison to see how sick it looks...
What do you think, are stripes for the shovel or the vase?

Comments (37)

  • 11 years ago

    Not for me, but I'm glad there is something for everyone. I grew Rock N Roll, moved before it took off.

  • 11 years ago

    People have been growing Rosa Mundi and York & Lancaster for at least 450 years, so I guess I'd have to say that if striped roses are clownish, they must be clownish in a good way.

  • 11 years ago

    Whoa Nellie, I just saw a close up of Village Maid's thorns and am backing away from that one.
    Thanks cottonwood468 and ffff for your opinions.
    I might see how thorny the other striped roses are in comparison.

  • 11 years ago

    I prefer to think of striped roses as festive! They're like a party in a rose form. They're charming and happy and they make me smile. I've always been partial to bi-colored roses so stripes are very appealing. The thing I like best is that they are every changing and each bloom is different from the next. Keeps the garden new and fresh with each flush.

  • 11 years ago

    Mariannese-
    That is a beautiful photo, thanks for posting it.
    C Beaurepaire was at Northland Rosarium last summer and sold out quickly before I could order. Yours looks very much like the roses in old Dutch paintings, which is what initially got me wanting a striped rose.
    Speaking of your name, I really want to get Mariann at some point.
    It's terrible, I'll cross five off my want list , and then add ten more.

  • 11 years ago

    Seil-
    You and Mariannese really got me jazzed again where I was on the fence before.
    These senior apartments definitely need all the party atmosphere we can get, although most are going away parties if you know what I mean. All the more reason for a happy rose.


  • 11 years ago

    I don't yet own any striped roses, but I do like an awful lot of them. Not the clownish ones of course...

    Mariannese, your 'Commandant' photo is too beautiful.

    Virginia

  • 11 years ago

    I like quite a few striped roses, but only grow 'George Burns' -which was a gift- myself. It is a very prickly rose as well. My mom has a modern striped Floribunda named 'Perfume Tiger' that I like quite a bit. 'Fourth of July' is a dependable rose for her as well.

    I can't grow once blooming OGRs that need winter chill, but there are some pretty roses in that group. I count the splotchy sorts like 'Marbrée' amongst the stripes and I would like to grow it some day. Rogue Valley has some sort of reblooming moss that is possibly splotchy bred by Fara Shimbo. It's called 'Toujours Gai' if I recall correctly.

    Jay

  • 11 years ago

    Though I've never grown it, I've always been attracted to Honorine de Brabant. The flowers make me think of big peppermints. :-)

  • 11 years ago

    Oooo peppermints, I'll see them that way now.
    Looked up all Jay's roses and found they are growing on me when looked at through your eyes.
    Linda

  • 11 years ago

    I am enjoying Rainbow

  • 11 years ago

    Ooo, great picture, Kippy. I can only think of 'Mme. Driout' and 'Rainbow' when I try to recall striped teas, but there may be some in commerce in Europe or Australia. I've never seen 'Rainbow' in person, but am I right to recall that it's a sport of 'Papa Gontier'?

    I don't think all stripes are clownish, but it's a matter of personal taste. Some of the particularly wacky ones like 'Simsalabim' appeal to me as a collector, but I know many of the unique HTs with stripes would perform poorly as garden plants without more pampering than I care to provide. Even something like 'Tawny Tiger' intrigues me, but I won't be buying it anytime soon.

    Jay

  • 11 years ago

    I have four -- 'Ferdinand Pichard', 'Georges Vibert', 'Honorine de Brabant', and 'Tricolore de Flandre' -- but I don't have good pics of them now. The first has been very slow to grow, the second and last have put on a decent amount of growth but only after they bloomed this year, and 'Honorine de Brabant' has really grown a lot but didn't rebloom this year. I mostly let all the roses grow wild with abandon this year, intending to give them their first pruning in Spring, so I didn't take pics of the garden after the first main rose bloom this year.

    Of the four, all but 'Ferdinand Pichard' read as "pink" unless you see them up close, so I don't think they're "too busy" to blend with their neighbors. 'Ferdinand Pichard' has a bit of a stronger contrast, but where I planted it that will work -- when it finally starts putting out big canes.

    Personally, if I was longing for a striped rose that may seem a bit garish, I'd aim to plant neighbors that are solids in whatever colors appear among its stripes. Barring that, a safe bet would be surrounding it with white flowers and/or silver foliage.

    :-)

    ~Christopher

  • 11 years ago

    Jay, yes 'Rainbow' is listed as a sport of Papa Gontier. A rose I just got from Burling.

    I am enjoying 'Rainbow' and Mom loves her. I have two and they seem to really like our garden and have had a few blooms. I know I should dis bud, but mom at 91 would rather see a few blooms now.

    This post was edited by Kippy-the-Hippy on Sun, Nov 30, 14 at 23:37

  • 11 years ago

    I like the ones that are subtle in color, a soft pink with white or violet with white, although I also admired Julio Iglesias in my garden until it failed to bloom and thrive. Honorine de Brabant was very charming but a very poor rebloomer for me. Striped roses in the beginning seemed very exotic and bizarre to me, but also fascinating. If they're carefully placed and have beautiful coloration, they can be a very attractive feature in the garden.

    Ingrid

  • 11 years ago

    I'm another vote for Commandant Beaurepaire. The blooms are lovely, and the lime green new foliage is amazing.

  • 11 years ago

    Count me in as a huge fan of the striped roses, but I have plenty of spots where those modern vibrant roses fit well. If you want more subtle kinds of stripes, Vick's Caprice is a very nice bloomer and plays nicely with the antique teas and Austins around him.

    {{gwi:304940}}

    Cynthia

  • 11 years ago

    mmm, will quite firmly say no thanks...under any circumstances....but then again, I am not keen on frilly roses, petaloids rather than stamens, the quartered bloom style, hybrid teas, highly coloured blends, large blooms....a long list of iniquitous roses.
    Most people would say I was picky,opinionated and even prejudiced....but I prefer to consider myself as discerning. Horses for courses.

  • 11 years ago

    camp, I would say you are picky but that's not far removed from being discerning. If you can't be picky about what you put in your garden and what makes you personally happy it would be a sad state of affairs.

    Cynthia, thanks for the gorgeous picture. I've often considered this rose but HP's don't really do well here. I hope I'll run across a striped rose that's beautiful that should do well here. I'd like to have at least one in my garden.

    Ingrid

  • 11 years ago

    I've had Ferdinand Pichard for four years and it really took off last year. It's about nine feet tall and tackling a young apple tree. I'm still undecided about it, but it attracts attention:

  • 11 years ago

    'Rosa Mundi' has been a favorite beauty for years, but 'George Vibert' is as cute as a bunny.

    {{gwi:323287}}

  • 11 years ago

    Rbehs-
    I can see how it would attract attention, a beautiful photo.

  • 11 years ago

    CapeRoses,
    You captured a perfect shot of the character of Rosa Mundi.
    In summer I try to make thank you bouquets , adding Rosa Mundi blooms would be grand.

  • 11 years ago

    That rose looks like 'Rosa Mundi' but it is 'George Vibert.'

  • 11 years ago

    Oh, what do I know...it does look cute as a bunny .
    i feel like a ignorant knucklehead on this forum but I am learning slowly.
    Linda

  • 11 years ago

    I personally adore striped, splotched, and spotted roses.

    I only have two right now, an early HT from the Radiance clan called 'Careless Love', and the gallica 'Rosa Mundi'. There are so many eccentrically colored roses in the gallica family that they are sometimes called the Mad Gallicas. In fact, one of our members has taken a name from this characteristic.

    Rosefolly

  • 11 years ago

    Variegata di Bologna is next on my list.... I've grown it before and sort of..miss it...
    .Rainbow is another, but might not like it here...

    ..lovely photos above ....

  • 11 years ago

    does not appeal to me

  • 11 years ago

    I'm with you Mauvegirl8,
    Mostly because what looks great, healthy and pro landscaping in other gardens sometimes irritates me once I get it in my small flower patch.
    Have to say Marlorina, when I saw the Variegata photo it drew me into that garden wanting a closer look.

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks everyone that gave their opinion.
    I've concluded that I love the heirloom look striped roses add to a garden and bouquet,
    But for my yard it already looks like a circus ring with all the acts going at once. I don't know how to acheive a harmonious tranquil space; to me it looks like I grabbed all the sale plants I could find at the hardware store and stuck them in ( which I did- except for the extravagant mail order roses).
    The fruit of all this hashing about stripes is that for the three little grandgirls that have a big woodsy yard to dig and climb and wander over to look and smell the flowers, for them I AM buying a Striped Rose ! Now which one...

  • 11 years ago

    I have to admit to having a few stripped roses.

    The 'Rainbow' in the photo above, I really like that one it is nice and soft.

    'Raspberry Cream Twirl' who has nice smooth canes and it growing fast.

    And the BIG 'Purple Splash' who I really enjoy, it is the loudest of all of them, but it really brightens up the veggie garden fence. It does scream stripes but it puts on such a show I really enjoy it.

  • 11 years ago

    ::: newbie creeping in :::

    Call me gauche, but those are showstoppers. I love that Ferdinand Pichard.

  • 11 years ago

    Bring on garish! I only have 4th of July, and in the spring I have ordered Neil Diamond to go into a pink and white flower bed. I wanted something a little different.

  • 11 years ago

    You can tone it down and link it together by inter-planting the roses with complimentary foliage plants in cooling bluish and silvery shades.

  • 5 years ago

    @mariannese can I ask about where you got your Commandant Beurepaire? RVR has Belle Doria in stock but I'm still inclined to believe Belle Doria is different from Commandant Beurepaire based on the different HMF and Combined Rose List entries. I want one that looks like yours!!

  • 5 years ago

    Sorry that I can be no help, but I live in Sweden and bought Commandant Beaurepaire locally in 2003.