Ha! I know what you mean about how large roses grow in our warm climate - mine get 2/3 times (or more!) what it says in the references. HMF and several other web sites I looked it up on say about 4 feet, so I would guess at least 6-8 feet here, but probably not huge huge. It looks gorgeous! I am becoming more & more enamored of the old chinas.

Jackie

I've had it for about a year and it is a great rose. It does like the heat it seems. Mine is only about 2 feet high so far. Not sure I have room for it to be so large.

Sorry I'm not more help but don't hear about this rose much and I had to chime in.

Ours has been in the Sacramento Cemetery garden for several years and it's still pretty small. I think it's going to end up being 3-4 ft tall and fairly upright, like Fabvier. Definitely not a Comtesse du Cayla!
Anita

and definately not like mutabilis either. A dainty little grower here absolutely ideal for a pot.

Anita and Suzy, this is good news! It's behavior did seem demure, but so many look oh-so-innocent in the pot and go on to become elephant-size in the ground out here, as Jackie notes. I've had to re-align (or abandon!) more than a few paths due to this sort of mis-calculation.

Great! It's best spot, landscape- and otherwise, fits a medium-sized bush, and I won't need to sacrifice my last remaining big-rose spot (which, of course, already has a candidate or two in waiting).

-- Debbie