That's interesting, I'd always thought of the cvs. you mention as being orlandianas, but you're right. I wish Frase had put parentheses in his cross, but I think it must be orlandiana x (Bert x fosteriana) rather than (orlandiana x Bert) x fosteriana, because the orlandiana blood certainly seems stronger in the mix.

I don't know why nobody's registered an orlandiana x Bert cross. Maybe they thought it wasn't distinct enough from either parent. I did a bunch of crosses a few years back using Ae. correia-araujoi, orlandiana, 'Bert' and Can. seidelianum, and they all start to look the same after a while! ;-) The only one I did with Bert was c-a x Bert, and I was never able to get any seed set on my orlandiana although I used it as a pollen parent with both c-a and the Canistrum.

Ae. correia-araujoi made some very nice crosses with each of the other 3, and those are the only ones I'm saving. I haven't registered any of them yet but I'm getting there...... slowly.

I remember seeing some very nice c-a crosses at Michael's when I visited there. Perhaps they were yours?
Paul

i like the rainbow cross..shows good color early on