Mario the average Neo growth--- pup to adult is 24 to 28 months..some are more.

G'day Mario. I have just bought a Picasso Blue Nude. Could this be the same as your Blue Nude? and if so, is Picasso a parent? A friend has Picasso Blue and I was hoping for something like hers but have been unable to find Picasso Blue anywhere, am wondering could it be the same as Blue Nude?
Anyway, this is my Picasso BLue Nude, will see if I can find a pic of the Picasso Blue.
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Picasso and Blue nude are to different plants..maybe a cross was done using them. Picasso is a Skotak variegated plant and quite colorful

Mario, this is Tropogem's Picasso Blue.
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HDD, Mario, could all 3 be the same?

Here's the description of the mature blue nude I posted above, taken from the Bromeliaceae:

#69 Neo. ÂBlue NudeÂ---You may have
this in your collection as Neo. ÂPiccaco Blue
Nude. It has now been registered in its own
right. It has broad leaves and great shape
and was a great disappointment in low light.
There was a dramatic intensifying of colour
when it came out into bright light.

I guess only time will tell.

I just found reference to a Picasso
NEOREGELIA
NAME: Picasso
HYBRIDIZER: Elmore, J. (#1181)
DATE: 1978
REMARKS: cv. of 'Takemura Grande' X 'Concentrica #1' - (Other cvs. = 'Blue Nude', 'Bottle, Wine Glass and Violin', 'Abstract' & 'The Lovers') - Elmore says, "Large concentrica type form w/rolled leaves and apiculate tips w/'Takemura Grande' type markings - center purple red at bloomtime - heavy color in outer third of most leaves - near black".
REFERENCE: Registration Documents 1983, SUP-ICBH-1985, JBS 33:212ill ('Blue Nude'), BirdRock1995
CULT_GREX: C
TAXON_RANK: H
REGISTERED: Yes
BSIREGNO: 3915
SEEDPRNT: Takemura Grande
POLLPRNT: Concentrica #1
CREATIONDATE: 31-Jan-2000

This brom stuff is a bit tricky innit. Will just leave mine alone and watch I think.

Thanks both of you for your help.

seems there are 2 plants with the same name. The Elmore is registered and the Skotak isnt

Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:461761}}

I originally purchased the blue nude because I couldn't find the takemura grande, being that Takemura Grande is a parent of the Blue Nude I figured id settle for that instead.

Elmore's Picasso is the grex name, and Blue Nude is one of the cultivars from that grex. This is the old system, where you had to register the grex too. The new system is to register the cultivars only, so what previously would have had to be called Neo. Picasso 'Blue Nude' or Neo. Picasso cv. Blue Nude, is now simply Neo. 'Blue Nude'.

I don't know if this puts the Picasso name up for grabs as a cultivar name or not. It certainly makes it confusing. The Skotak plant is clearly a whole different animal, but my guess is that plants labeled Blue Nude, Picasso Blue Nude or Picasso Blue are all the same cultivar of Elmore's cross, unless somebody put the wrong tag on it.

Mario, you mentioned Bromeliaceae. What were you referring to? Is that a publication?

Yes Lisa, Bromeliaceae is the name of the publication put out by the Bromeliad Society of Queensland. I'm just looking through some of their previous issues, a hard copy would be nice for reference.

Anyone know where I can get hard copies of some previous issues?

http://www.bromsqueensland.com.

Thanks, Mario! That looks like a great publication, more geared to the average grower than the BSI Journal is.

Here is a link that might be useful: Bromeliaceae Mar-Apr 2007

Hello, Ive just stumbled accross this thread and saw the word Blue Nude and came in hoping to find a nice pic of a brom that looks nice.....and it does....lol
It looks very much like my *so called* Picasso Blue which i purchased from a seller in Cairns, QLD. Thats the one that Sutto posted.
I have a pup Mario that looks similar to yours also. one day i will grab a pic to show you.
So do i have Picasso Blue? or Blue nude i wonder?...LOL
markings do look a slight diff to the first one Mario posted up there, but mine also sees 8am sun to 1.00pm sun without any shade cloth at all
Broms are tricky things arnt they...lol

Hi all, lol Gem and sutto I just posted about this very subject on our thread this morning.
i was doing some late night reading in bed and came across the article explaining this.

Troppogem, when you bought your Picasso Blue the seller had left off the end off the name, it should have been
Picasso Blue Nude.

this was running around QLD as unregisted at first, and then when the Skotak Picasso was registered, the confusion had to be cleared up.

SO your Picasso is 'Blue Nude' now and yes it has Takemura Grande and Concentrica parents.

the Skotak hybrid is a variegated Neo with a hot centre and nothing like this one.

hope this helps with the confusion.

ahhhh thankyou Nadsy....lol
So i have "Blue Nude", okie dokie shall write that on a new tag for him
Thanks again
Love Gem

Forgive my ignorance here please, but Am I right in thinking that Takemura Grande & Concentrica were crossed with Picasso, Blue Nude, Wineglass and Violin, Abstract and The Lovers being the results? If that is so, then there really is a difference between Picasso and Blue Nude i.e. The Picasso is really dark and the Blue Nude is a lot lighter/redder? And that the only Picasso registered is Elmores?
Of course none of my waffle is relevant if I have got this seed thing wrong - seed plants are different but those different plants from the same batch of seed can pup true to themselves? If I have got this right, then the seed all came from the one cross, but they grew differently therefore giving us the 5 different broms that I wrote earlier on in my waffle.
If I have this wrong, then please, give it to me in baby talk so I can fully get a grasp on it all.

Hi sutto, If I understand the way that Lisa explained it above, Picasso was the name given by Elmore to all of the seedlings produced from the one cross(grex) of Takemura Grande and Concentrica.

Individual plants were given the names 'bluenude', 'wineglass', 'violin' etc. Each one could technically have Picasso in front of them as their family name just like our surname is used for all the children from two parents.

This practise for plants no longer exists so picasso has been dropped from the names.

Just to confuse the issue another hybridist Skotak has named one of his plants 'Picasso'. It has been registered so I imagine it is the only one that should be called Picasso while Elmore's remain as plain 'blue nude', 'wineglass' etc.

If I am incorrect I am sure Lisa or one of the others will set us straight.

You've got it right, neonut.

HDD & Lisa, thank you. I understand now.

Top explanation there Neo, even I understood it , LOL.