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Unknown Neo. species

19 years ago

Does anybody recognize this green stoloniferous Neo. species? I got it from a friend, who wild-collected it in Brazil, and it's never bloomed.

The closest picture I could find is of Neo. tarapotoensis, but it's not the same. This one isn't quite as spiny and has longer stolons. It's also greener than Neo. hoehneana (which I have), so that's not it either. I can't find anything else that even comes close. The leaf tips seem to turn a bit brown on it, but other than that it's a pretty cool plant.

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Comments (20)

  • 19 years ago

    Lisa, it feels kind of weird to make an identification suggestion to you. . . but here we go. First I was thinking of Neo capixabae but its stolons also are not that long and it has red leave tips. So what about NOT being a Neo? Aech aculeatosepala? It was first classified as a new and later moved over to the Aechmeas. It makes long stolons. My plant I only got recently and it has not flowered either but it also has not made any pups.
    There is a nice picture on FCBS but their's is almost totally red. I suppose it depends on the growing conditions as mine is still green and I am exposing it to as much sun as possible.
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  • 19 years ago

    Well, I have to say your plant does look very much like mine, Japie. The thing is, I had an Ae. aculeatosepala that I bought at one of the conventions that looked quite different. It was covered with silver scurf and did turn reddish, much like the pictures. Neither of those traits apply to this one.

    Where did you get your plant? How confident are you in its ID? I'll bet it's the same as mine, but I'll bet it's not Ae. aculeatosepala! ;-)

  • 19 years ago

    My aculeatosepala looked pretty much like this one:

    Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:438747}}

  • 19 years ago

    ...but then I found this picture from Tropiflora. I can't quite tell if it's scurfy or not.

    Hmmm........

    Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:462476}}

  • 19 years ago

    Lisa, I got my plant from Lyn from East London. I will check tomorrow with her, as it is now past her bed time allready. (Just after 10 SA time) But I bet she got it either from Tropiflora or from Michael. But occasionally she does get plants from other sources. But I will report back tomorrow

  • 19 years ago

    My 2 cents worth,,,but I saw the plant at Michael's looks just like both of your photo's here

  • 19 years ago

    Sorry Lisa, I have no idea what your plant is....but can I ask the name of that huge glowing red monster that can be seen between your mystery plant & the last hanging plant on the right..?

  • 19 years ago

    And here is the same plant a month later starting to respond to the more sun in its new position. But it is still this weak winter sun, I suppose it should colour up very nicely when summer returns!
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  • 19 years ago

    Was Michael's plant labeled Ae. aculeatosepala, HDD? I sent him a picture, so we'll see what he has to say. Maybe there is more than one form of it, but it looks pretty different from the other one.

    Ah, devo, you have a good eye! Huge glowing red monster:

    {{gwi:462482}}

    This is my baby, 'Songlines'. Super plant, very large, thick as rhino hide, glossy and lineated. A real keeper, but so far it has never bloomed. Not available yet, of course, but in time...... ;-)

  • 19 years ago

    Very nice!

  • 19 years ago

    Wow....I may have a good eye.....but...WOW...that is an amazing plant....! Good colour, clear markings, form AND size.

    You know, one of my dream crosses went something like Grace Darling X Princess Di...with the best offspring looking something like...well...your baby... Inspiring stuff.

    Now, if your baby ever gets tired of a tropical climate, I know of a subtropical oasis down under, where it would be made very welcome...

  • 19 years ago

    Lisa, Lyn replied that she got A aculeatosepala from a friend who got it from Tropiflora some years ago. Hope it sheds a bit more light on it for you!

  • 19 years ago

    Well, I guess the question is whether or not Tropiflora's plant is IDed correctly. It sure looks different from the other form, and it's also easier to grow, but I don't have any better ideas. The scurfy aculeatosepala supposedly colors up when it blooms, I wonder if this does? I was hoping it was a Neo so I could cross to it.

    Devo, I think you should do that cross. It would likely be very nice. 'Songlines' is ('roseo-striata' x 'johannis rubra') x johannis. It's one of the few that I consider a "finished product", i.e. no real need to build on it. I threw 'Pinstripe' out of my shadehouse when this one came along! ;-)

  • 19 years ago

    Not to totally derail this thread but 'Songlines' is beautiful Lisa. I'm normally not a fan of reds but those lines look amazing.

  • 19 years ago

    Lisa, did you get feedback from Michael yet, or got a picture of his plant? I was just wondering as Lyn is going to get some more plants from Michael this week and she included A aculeatosepala in her list.

  • 19 years ago

    Its in the wee hours of the morning in HI avane she probally asleep right now..I talked to Michael this morning but he was snowed under with orders..maybe he had time to answer Lisa's email and we will hear from her after her coffee :)

  • 19 years ago

    Yes, he said it was Ae. aculeatosepala, Japie, and he's never seen it bloom either. I'm still confused about the two different forms though, so maybe I'll ask Uncle Derek what he knows about it.

  • 19 years ago

    Lisa, I just came accross this picture on FCBS. Not that I'd like to get a new name for my plant, but it does look an awfull lot like it. And this one also has very long stolons!

    Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:462477}}

  • 19 years ago

    And another. Not much of the plant to see, but the flower! And according to that, I don't think it can be a Neo!!!

    Here is a link that might be useful: Neo hoehneana

  • 19 years ago

    Japie, I have Neo. hoehneana, so I know it's not that, unless there's a green form of it that I don't know about.

    That picture in your second link is not hoehneana either. As near as I can tell it's the yellow form of Ae. tillandsioides. I don't know how anybody could possibly get those two confused, that is very odd.

    Don't believe everything you see on google. Pictures often come up that were on the same page as the name, but have no other relation to it.

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