Andy,

I like the some of the Neo. Cruenta Rubra x MorrisHenryHobbs combinations - GeeWhiz would be my first pick, RedGold is also nice.

Neo. Cruenta Rubra is a nice plant, I think one of the latest UncleDerekSays now calls it Neo.Monstrosus.

Neo.MorrisHenryHobbs is a must have, they are reasonably priced in Australia.

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Cheers,

Rick

I have just bought alcantarea Extensia & Imperialis. Both are big broms and take full sun.

Some of my favourite giant neos include:

- GeeWhiz Rubra
- GeeWhiz
- Cockabelle
- Green Apple
- Morris Henry Hobbs USA
- Johannis
- DeRolf
- Brazil

I'm actually looking for a Correia-Aroujoi if anybody is looking to sell/trade in the Brisbane area.

Cheers Matt

Thanks guys, I had forgotten about the Gee Whiz group/area and also hadn't heard of several of those Matt. Thanks for the leads...this will keep me busy for a while...

Andy, if you show us a pic of your presumed carcharodon/pascoaliana we may be able to ID it.

All of the members of the carcharodon alliance are fairly good-sized, at least all the ones I can think of, Tiger, Rainbow, Silver, Rubra, etc. There are some fairly large forms of concentrica too, such as Big Blue and Blue Bullis.

As for hybrids, look for ones made with large species. Most correia-araujoi hybrids are fairly big. Some of my own are Ring of Fire, Afropop, Vallenato and Spring Rain, but if I had to get just one c-a hybrid I think I'd go for Justin's Song. The size, form and markings are all excellent on that one. Super plant (and not mine)!

Pinstripe gets really huge too. It's also fairly prolific and has been around long enough that it shouldn't cost much. Takemura Grande, Royal Grande, Grande Fantastic Gardens.... heck, all of the Grandes would be grand!

Matt, if your 'Brazil' is the same as what we in Hawaii grow under that name, it IS correia-araujoi. There is another cultivar with that name, but it is a carolinae and presumably much smaller.

Andy, if I may add some, what about:

Bobby Dazzler - a huge plant that can take a lot of sun
Bobbie Hull - the diameter of the total plant is not the biggest, but it's leaves are very wide.
Calypso - a very nice cruenta that would be noticed as different from the species
Phyllis OT - maybe not full sun but some, otherwise it is just huge and green

Japie

Andy one more for that list is Neo Knockout. It's large with a striking dark red throughout the entire plant but requires little/no sun.

lisaclv i'm pretty sure here in Aust the two varieties are different. I'll post a pic of my Brazil soon and you can confirm this for me but i've sourced my info from these links:

http://www.bromeliad.org.au/pictures/Neoregelia/correia-araujoi.htm

http://www.bromeliad.org.au/pictures/Neoregelia/Brazil2.htm

Cheers

Matt, they are the same, although there is more than one clone of correia-araujoi. Look at my photo (upper right) of two c-a clones on your first link. Granted, it's a poor reproduction, but the plant on the right is the exact same clone as the one in your second link, i.e. Brazil/Brasil/Brazil species/Braz-el, or whatever anyone wants to call it, namely the one that was pictured in Shane Zaghini's first book.

How do I know this? Because as soon as I saw Shane's picture I recognized where it was taken-- not, as Rob Smythe assumes, at Grace Goode's, but here in Hawaii in Hatsumi Maertz's backyard. That is her hand in the photo (she confirmed this when I asked), and I got that clone from her.

Sorry if I sound a bit snippy, it's just that I've been over this many times, both here on the forum and with Uncle Derek and others trying to convince them that there is no need to register this plant as "Braz-el". He made a note of my comments in one of the BSQ journals, but the registration stands.

I sent a specimen of both clones in the photo to Harry Luther at the BIC and he IDed them both as correia-araujoi (of course now he's saying that c-a is just another form of johannis, but that's another can of worms altogether). Up until I got Harry's ID nobody here knew what the heck it was, and since it had been wild collected in Brazil the person who brought it back it just referred to it as "Brazil" and the name stuck. I don't know if Shane brought it to Australia under that name, but I know Cheryl Basic did, and probably others did too. Cheryl now knows it's c-a but still the confusion persists.

Hi everyone

Hi Andy,

I don't what you call "huge", but the largest I have is Neo Rosy Morn which comes in at a tad over three feet in diameter.

The pic's below show my plant at different stages.

It is grown beneath 50% shade cloth, but judging by the colour of the plant on the FCBS Photo Index by Jarka Rehak, it looks like it could probably take loads of sun.

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All the best, Nev.

Wow, thanks for more input everyone! I had no idea concentrica's could be all that big, Lisa. I just think of them as the 'normal' medium sized purple-ish ones. Learn something here almost every day! Lots more neos added to my wish list today.

Yeah Nev, I think over three feet wide counts as huge to me. I love how that one flattens out. Great looking plant there.

All of these are great suggestions. This is just what I was hoping for, a list that I can go back to again and again.

Here are pictures of my carcharodon/pascoaliana. It is quite scurfy so I took pictures dry and sprayed down.
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Here you can see how thick the scurf is...there is a strip where tape I used to label it in transit pulled off some scurf 2/3rds of the way up the leaf in the center.
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And here wet:
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Hi Guys

That is Neo. pascoaliana.

Lisa, S.Z is the king of mistakes, there is a list around this country of erratas to his last book with over 150 errors in it, yours just adds to the long list for such a small book.

Pinkbroms

I agree, definitely pascoaliana, Andy.

Pinkbroms, I know Shane's books are full of errors, and I also know he doesn't care! ;-) That's not what bothers me so much as this after-the-fact attempt to legitimize it by registering the name when it's actually a species, and as such, doesn't need registering or naming. I suppose one could make an argument for naming just that one clone, but with all of the seedling variations of this species it's not really all that distinct from some of the others.

Here is a pic of Pinstripe growing in semi-shade (keys for size reference). It can take full sun too, but stays somewhat more compact under those conditions.

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Andy,

Neo.Perfection is another, I didn't think it was a large plant but walking past mine it measures 80cm accross - it could be because I'm growing it in too little light.

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Matt,

I don't know if this is a Correia-Aroujoi, I have called it a Marmorata cross but it does look similar to your link - I'd be happy to trade one for something, if you are interested drop me an e-mail.

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Cheers,

Rick

Lisa i'm just a small social collector/enthusiast so I have no doubt your correct. I can also understand how you must be fustrated but its great to see soo many people here sharing information and knowledge.

Rick i'm always very keen to visit local collectors here in Brisbane so i've sent you an e-mail.

Cheers Matt

Hi all

Off the top of my head: some not cruenta/c-a hybribs but anyway.

Derumbe (albo and medio)
Blockbuster
All those fantastic large varigated plants (Skotak) with Bobby Hull, silver etc (do they have names yet?)

I like a cruenta hybrib called Baron Rouge, nice light purple colour
Neo code red
Ring of Fire (as Lisa mentions above) is a goodie
Magali seems to get quite large too for that matter...

Cheers

Dennis

Hi everyone,
This won't help Andy's wishlist at all, but I couldn't resist the chance to show off these big guys:
Starting with my favourite, Neo. 'Exotica Imperial'
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this one had a 1.2m spread at maturity.

Next, not quite so big, but better suited to partial shade, Neo. 'Exotica Red Lace'
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And finally, one which hasn't been named yet - suggestions welcomed :-)
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Admittedly, quite an unusual photographic setting, but this is how I got it back home from the nursery, and it's the only photo I have of it in fully coloured.

Cheers, Todd

Hi everyone,

Thanks Andy for starting this topic, it's turned out very interesting with a lot of plants I've never seen in my neck of the woods before.

Todd, I love your Exoticas, especially the Imperial which I think looks magnificent.

Great work everyone, keep 'em comin'

All the best, Nev.

Todd,

Nice looking plants, you either have a very small car or the last one is a giant. I was thinking SunGod for a name but I see that name has already been claimed.

Can you tell us the parents?

Cheers,

Rick

Yeah, that last one is HUGE Todd. And I like that 'Exotica Imperial'. Great color, form, and big. Sure doesn't help my wish list much, but was great to see there are more big ones around.
-andy

Here's a few pics of some of my large Neo's. Please bare with me as I have little experience taking photos outdoors of plants and my yard is getting little sun with Winter.

Originally bought as Johannis but i think its wrong. Can somebody please confirm this for me? My guess if not Johannis is DeRolf. Its an old dying parent but it still produces some fantastic pups.
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Again I don't know the name of this one. Guess would be Johannis?
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Morris Henry Hobbs USA
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Brazil
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Cockabelle (an old parent who is still pupping)
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Cockabelle (one of the first pups)
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GeeWhiz Rubra (First large Neo i purchased. Alot of the colouring has gone but todate it is still producing pups. 13+ Thurs far)
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GeeWhiz Rubra (Here u can see the colouring and deep purple)
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cv Knockout (I only acquired this one last week from my old man. Its one of his first pups.)
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Sorry my mistake above. The double photo should be:

GeeWhiz Rubra (Here u can see the colouring and deep purple)
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