I found that my Unknown Neo, that I've recent posted about, had 2 nice ripe berries and all the other flowers were rotten stinky things. I guess I've never found ripe berries on anything but a selfer so I didn't know what to expect. I'd guess the flowers that aren't carrying seeds die back sooner. That shouldn't be a big revelation, but I never thought about it. So, I'm looking forward to a few ripe Nid berries next week or so. If I had actually marked my crosses, this would be easier, but I (incorrectly) figured that nothing would take since all my crosses were bigenerics and I didn't know what I was doing.