Hmmm........ You could try all possible combinations, Gonzer, but if I had to choose just one I think I'd go with Pipeline x Las Manchas (or vice versa). That would be the most likely to give you a cool black & white color scheme with a nice red semi-pendant flower, but if that's not what your heart desires, then follow your own instincts!

My Las Manchas just finished flowering and its mid-winter here......infact most of the Bills are flowering or going to flower (Like Lisa mentioned in the berry ripeness post-winter is the main time). I wonder why the same hybrid is flowering in summer there and winter here, perhaps it has shock from landing in Cali from FL!

Lisa (sorry for putting my question in here Gonz): what do you think the plants of B.horrida X B."The Artist" will turn out like? And what about B.Carrones black X with both the above?

Thanks

Dennis
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Gee, I don't know, Dennis. I have Carrone's Black but not the other two. I haven't worked with it but I like the black foliage and the bloom is an unusual coral pink and purple, quite striking.

Is your horrida green? It seems like most of the hybrids made using horrida have used v. tigrina, which is more colorful. Just from the pictures the only notable thing about the plain green form seems to be its big spines, so I could see maybe using it to bring that out in certain crosses, but in this case it just seems likely to water down both the flowers and foliage colors of the other two.

As for crossing CBB with TA, it could be interesting or they could just cancel each other out. There's only one way to find out. I'm not seeing an obvious goal there, but life is full of surprises!

Thanks Lisa

I was going to use the horrida because I like the big spines....she does have some black colouring (spots and blotches)that might add some interest. With the CB and TA I was hoping to get a dark purple plant with pink/white spots......nice.

Thanks again