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19 years ago

I bought these plants from Portugal from Ebay a while ago.

The seller said they are DexterÂs Pride X Bobby Hill and DexterÂs Pride X Carolinae Var. X Cruenta. (first 3 pix)



This one I like. It was not that nice when I got it.

A lot of light and a tiny bit of Osmocote did the trick.

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This one had way to much fertilizer when it was small. Look at the older yellow and green leaves.

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Is is possible that the same parents produce such different plants?





This one is supposed to be Neo Marmorata, I really don't think so.

What do you guys think?

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Comments (5)

  • 19 years ago

    I have no experience in Neo Dexter's Pride or Bobby Hull. And would like to pass on the first two pictures. The third picture looks like it could be Neo Royal Burgundy and the 4th I would say is Neo Bobby Dazzler. Japie

  • 19 years ago

    Sander, I'm confused by the names. What do you mean when you say the same parents produced those plants? The way I read it the one in the first two pictures would be Dexter's Pride x Bobbie Hull, and the third one would be either Dexter's Pride x (carolinae var. x Cruenta) or (Dexter's Pride x carolinae var.) x cruenta. Is that right, or did you mean that all three of them are supposed to be (DP x BH) X [(DP x car) x cru]?

    I'm not going to go into my lecture about the proper notation of names, but it does make a difference where the parentheses are placed. Having said that, there's nothing in ANY of the parent plants listed that would give you the marmorated (spotted) markings of the one in the third picture, so I think that's wrong. As Japie says, it does look a bit like Royal Burgundy, but there are lots of other hybrids that could look like that too, so I'm not going to call it. The first one does look plausible as DP x BH, or even the whole line-up that you mentioned.

    In general, though, it is possible for the same parents to produce wildly different offspring, particularly if both parents are already complex hybrids. A trait can't come from nowhere, though. If there is marmoration, there must be something in its background to produce it, like chlorosticta, marmorata, etc. and there's none of that in any of those hybrids.

    The last picture I don't know, but it looks like a hybrid rather than a true marmorata to me.

  • 19 years ago

    They are supposed to be the whole line (DP x BH) X [(DP x car) x cru]. The brown one and the spotted one, I already figured these two are not brothers.

    I also have a really small pup that shoud be of the same parents. Too small to see what it is going to be.

    Way to red for a Marmorata huh? Thought so.

    I don't mind, if they grow up to be nice plants I'm happy with them. Hybridizing would make no sense not knowing for sure who the parents are.

    Thanks
    Sander

  • 19 years ago

    And this is why I suggested Neo Bobby Dazzler for your last picture. Mine is lower, right. Lower left is Beefsteak.
    Lisa, look at the nice banding that I get here!
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  • 19 years ago

    That Bobby D is very close indeed!

    FCBS says: "cv. of unknown parentage"
    :-) Nice

    Somebody plese tell FCBS BD is DexterÂs Pride X Bobby Hill and DexterÂs Pride X Carolinae Var. X Cruenta
    LOL

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