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Cryptanthus [for a change]

20 years ago

Hi all,and especially Stephania whom I want to incentivize back into cryptantus collecting.

I thought a change of pace is due from our usual genera topics,and give these guys a chance at some critiques and photos. It's getting down into the 40's at night now,so I'm bringing in the crop.

First pic is a varied group,just before coming indoors.

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And some close-ups

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Another

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Next,[this is 'Strawberries Flambe,with 7 offsets]

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Last one

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Nothing spactacular here,but some nice variety and colors.

I'd like to see some of your collections posted,and to further lure Stephania back .There are some really nice hybrids out there,and we need to drool over them.

Next posting will be showing 'where we spend our winter vacation' ....Bob

Comments (22)

  • 20 years ago

    Very cool looking Bob. Mind if I borrow a couple for wallpaper?

  • 20 years ago

    Help yourself gonz.How does one do that from this site?

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks my dear Bob!! I'm trapped in Cryp. right now ;)

    It just yesterday midnight, while I was sleeping,
    my friend woke me up called from Florida that he just met Dr. Larry
    to get some Cryp. for me as complementary reward,
    due to I had written an article for his Cryp. journal.
    I can't wait...what treasure I would receive.
    My friend will come back at the end of this month...

    Yes Bob, with a bunch of my xeric broms order
    that my friend already got at Tropiflora...
    I can say that it's rather a special listed.
    Though, I had to pay a lot of buck but I think that would be
    my 40 th birthday's give, for this coming December.

    This is my 'Elaine', she gonna have a dozen of friend nearly soon LOL.

    {{gwi:460307}}

  • 20 years ago

    Bob..I really love your 'Strawberry Flambe' it looks yummy and sweetie!!
    I noticed your Cryp. colnagoi is shooting pups as mine too.
    In a message, Dr. Larry told me that he will give me another clone of this species that has different leaves form.

    This is my Cryp. colnagoi, took before he flowers and shoot 5 pups.

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    And this is a pic of variegated one that taken from my friend collection.
    I have the same one that I got long time ago. I would like to know its name.

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  • 20 years ago

    I would like to know that one's name too, Stephania. I've never seen that before, and I want one!

    I've always liked colnagoi too, but I wish there was a way to get that coloration on a wider leaf. That's why I want latifolius-- super wide leaf.

    Congratulations on your soon-to-arrive babies, I'm sure you'll be a wonderful daddy!

  • 20 years ago

    Dear Lisa, as my total recall, that variegated Cryp. was imported
    from the late Southern Explosure by an avid collector here, Mr Arthon Hinchiranun,
    20 year ago. Fortunately, with some reason,
    this cultivar has been kept by a few collectors here for decade.
    One of those is my friend.

    Within this year, Mrs. Nongphorn, a Sharon's good friend,
    will go to Hawaii again, I can ask her to bring you one, if you prefer.

    Anyway, I've required Dr. Larry for the name this evening. May be he could tell us.

  • 20 years ago

    Stephania/Lisa,I have a 1993 SE catalog,and find the only pic in there that resembles the variegated one shown above,is 'Ocean Mist'.As you say,Stephania,your plant goes back 20 years,and came from SE,and other look alikes on the market today are too recent to be yours.I'd say that there is a fair chance that you have a varigated 'Ocean Mist' that originated at SE. OM does not have known parentage,according to fcbs.If you can imagine your plant minus the variegation,you can almost see an OM there,at least a possible maybe.Pic from fcbs for comparison,and a thank you to fcbs for the loan.This is a 'guess',of course,and I await Dr. Larry's valued opinion. Bob
    [and I want one of those too !] {{gwi:497621}}

  • 20 years ago

    That would be wonderful if you have any to spare, Stephania! I recieved an email from Nongporn saying that she wanted to visit us on her next trip but she didn't say when that would be. The last time she was here we were very busy and didn't have the time to see her, but later in the year things slow down, so hopefully it will work out. Maybe I can send some things to you via her too.

    Bob, I don't think it's a variegated 'Ocean Mist' There are a lot of green Crypts with silver bands, and that picture you posted doesn't even look like an 'Ocean Mist' to me. I'm not saying it isn't, especially since it was in the Journal, just that the picture makes it look darker than it is. Also, the only variegated Crypts I've ever seen were all variegates of species, not hybrids. I'm not quite sure why this should be, but it leads me to suspect that this is a variegated C. zonatus of some sort (now watch, you'll probably find a picture of a variegated hybrid and prove me wrong!) At any rate, Larry will know.

  • 20 years ago

    Well,Lisa,you make a good point about it being a variegation of a species,most likely from zonatus.I have a zonatus that has the color and bar markings like the photo,minus the variegation,and has a tag name of C.zonatus european. I have no idea if that is a correct name.And that species goes back a long time too.Can't remember where I got it.I thought the timing and origination from SE was therefore a possibility,now,I'm not so sure. I was'nt sure before either ;-) But its a good conversation piece.[remember my moto 'always learning'] I took a pic of my 'OM',as the journal photo was rather dark and misleading.Here she be..Bob
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  • 20 years ago

    Hi all,
    Surprisingly !!! Dr Larry just replied me herewith...

    "...The cryptanthus picture which you sent, showing the variegated plant is new to me. It has some of the characteristics of a variegated C. zonatus viridis, but I am unsure. I suspected it is a new cultivar that may have developed either in Florida or in Indonesia. I would love to have a few pups to propagate and register as a new cultivar in the Cryptanthus Society Journal. There are several new cultivars produced by your friend which I would eventually like to get and register with names of course selected by your friend..."

    I've never expect like that...how about my true name for that unknown variegated Crypt LOL...;-)

  • 20 years ago

    Great idea, Stephania-- now you'll have to tell us what it is! Don't worry if it's hard for Americans to pronounce, that's just too bad! You should have seen Larry's face when I told him one of my Crypts was named 'Uluwehi'. I see he hasn't registered that one yet, LOL.

    I'm surprised he hadn't seen that variegate before. Are you sure it came from Southern Exposure? I thought he would know anything that came from there.

    Bob, your picture of 'Ocean Mist' is more like what mine looked like. I don't have it anymore because that one never did well for me. For some reason the tips always turned yellow, although I didn't have that problem with most of the others.

    I was going through all my old packets of photos (pre-digital) and came across a few of my Crypts. Not necessarily the best ones, but here's 'Kahlua Frost':

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    'Cotton Candy':

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    'Midori':

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    'Tapestry':

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    'Medusa'-- it's really not this black, more of a dark brown, but every time I tried to scan it the scanner thought it was a black and white picture, until I finally had to but a piece of colored plastic in there with it so it would print it in color. Still looks black, though, LOL

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    'Richard Lum':

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    There are a bunch of others I don't have pictures of. My Crypts were on the brink of extinction due to neglect when Dr. Larry came and rescued them. After that I figured I'd better salvage whatever was left and repot them and get them going again. I'm doing that now, but they're kind of crowded together and not exactly photo-worthy yet. Soon, though.

    I don't even have 'Richard Lum' anymore, so I hope the ones he got are doing well and I can get one back from him at some point. I named that after the person I got most of my Crypts from. He was an avid breeder of both Cryptanthus and Tillandsias, and his 'Lum's Delight' is one of the parents of my cross.

    I wish I had a good picture of my best one, 'Ken Vinzant' (named for my husband), but unfortunately the only one that really shows the size also has this person in it who looks like a gopher's granny. I have no idea who that is! ;-)

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  • 20 years ago

    Dear Lisa,
    My topic of variegated Cryp. seem to be more complicate.
    It just today morning, I called Mr. Arthorn, who imported this plant from US
    into Thailand (nearly 18-20 years ago) and he replied me, surprisingly, that
    actually it's not Southern Explosure or Pineapple Place or even Alvim Sidel,
    but it came from a bearded guy....Mr Dennis Cathcart of Tropiflora!!!

    His total recall told me that, it was labelled as a natural variegated
    wild collected Crypt. zonatus viridis,(as you guess!)
    with some white stripe on the leaves.

    Years later, I took some pups from him and then
    there were a few next generations from that clone
    which gradually became more and more permanent variegated. I can't remember when that I had given up all my brom collection
    to some of my friends. As I said, fortunately, some of them have kept the plant
    since that time, and returned one for me, as I told them I'ld back for Crypt. again....
    That's its story.

    Though, this plant mutated to be more variegated here,
    but when I know the truth where it came from,
    I think I would like to dedicate for the first distributor...
    yes I want to name it Cryptanthus 'Dennis Cathcart'
    in case he agree with my purpose. I've talked with Dr. Larry of my purpose
    and will tell you what will go on.

    Lisa...what I can say is, that lady looks so generous person
    and what matter she was holding must be the most magnificent Cryp. in this world.

  • 20 years ago

    Really excellent photos Lisa,and thank you for posting them so soon.That 'Midon' looks like it was almost albo marginated,having that dark green center area that brings out the lighter green edge.Nice plant.In fact,they are all very nice and colorful.And Medusa is aptly named.
    Stephania's latest info was a bit of a surprise,as to where it originated,and I'm glad its cleared up,and so soon too.When I see pics of beautiful cryptanthus like those you've shown here,it makes me anxious to go on a spending spree to obtain some more. Must subdue that urge,as where can I find the room to put them? Dang!,I need a greenhouse ! Thanks Lisa and Stephania,for your valued input. Bob

  • 20 years ago

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOO i like the crypt with granny thats awesome. It we had crypts like that here i might collect a few.

  • 20 years ago

    You do have Crypts like that there, diggety! I sent one for auction at the 2002 conference and Nelwyn Anderson walked away with it, so it should be circulating around Texas by now.

    So.... "generous", Stephania? I guess that means you want one, LOL! No problem, I'm sure I can find a pup if you or Nongporn come here to claim it.

    Anyway, that person in the picture can't be me, because this is me:

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    Okay, same face, you're right, but somehow it looks a little less granny-esque in a different setting. Maybe I can blame it on "growing conditions"! ;-)

  • 20 years ago

    You dont look like granny,,maybe a professor and if there are crypts like that around here someone hid them :(

  • 20 years ago

    Dear friends, as you would know from the CNN breaking news that my country, Thailand, is in coup right now!!! ;(

    I'm OK, just be home after delayed by the troops on a street this evening.

    Well, let's back to brom topic better.
    Hey Lisa...today, Dr Larry sent me a message herewith...

    "...I think it would be very nice to name the variegated zonatus viridis after Dennis Cathcart. Since he has been instrumental in spreading bromeliads and especially cryptanthus to many parts of the world. I would definitely like to have a few nicely variegated plants of this cryptanthus to grow, photograph and register in the Journal. Eventually they would be introduced in the trade and available to other growers..."

    Yes...that would be my pleasure.

  • 20 years ago

    'Creme Brulee'
    'Fever Frost'
    'Platinum Blonde'

  • 20 years ago

    What no pictures hdd??

  • 20 years ago

    Oh my goodness, Stephania, I haven't been watching the news but I checked online stories and it sounds serious! I have no idea how this state of emergency will effect your daily life, but I just hope that you stay safe and the situation will be resolved peacefully.

  • 20 years ago

    They are on their way here Partris mid next week

  • 20 years ago

    Looking forward to seeing your new gang hdd!

    Stay safe Stephania. Thoughts and prayers are with you and your country.

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