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19 years ago

Hi

Completed a seep wall in the shadehouse a year ago in March and in spite of some setbacks it is now growing well

It will be primarily for orhids and epiphytic vines but would like to add some broms. Any that will stay small ,under 6 inches and grow epi?? Water and light are no problem can go from almost full sun to full shade as well as constantly moist to as dry as needed

Only ones I'm familiar with are tillandsias gary

Comments (12)

  • 19 years ago

    Hi Gary, you have a huge number to choose from, especially if you have a range of light levels from full sun to full shade.

    See the link below, it was one that came up on a search for small Brom's(there are many more) These small Neo's would typically be best in the areas of high light, while some of the small Vriesea's will do well in a little less light. I like the ones with hanging flower spikes, like scalaris, and simplex. Here is a small clump, growing on a tree fern, just coming into flower.

    {{gwi:503353}}

    BTW that "seep wall" sounds very interesting...do you have any photos, or can you explain how it works...?

    Here is a link that might be useful: Small Bromeliads

  • 19 years ago

    Yes, what is a 'seep wall' Gary?

    K

  • 19 years ago

    Hi
    Thanks for the link. Sound almost ideal for this situation. I just want a few as I want to save most of the space for orchids.
    A "seep wall" is an attempt at a verticle rather than horizontal grow area. Sort of a combination waterfall ,grow area.
    In my case I'm using mostly epiphytes though I'm trying some terrestrials also.
    They are normally made of rock or driftwood but I used expanding insulation foam to avoid the weight and cost.
    I used a 150 gallon aquarium as the reservoir and the wall is above and behind that. Is 10 feet wide and goes up the house wall 8 feet.
    I had decided to turn the shadehouse into a "rainforest"
    rather than a collection of "noid" orchids.
    The best example of this technique is at the Selby gardens in Sarasota Florida but there are many others in zoos and botanical gardens.
    Have around 60 species on the wall but none were purchased specificly for that purpose. They are mostly offsets and cuttings of older plants.
    I wanted to test the system for awhile to see how it worked. then either add or replace with rarer species.
    The main advantage is that it allows a lot of different plants to grow very close together without the usual pot collectionlol. So far the main problems have been mechanical and unbelieveable growth lol.
    In an area 15x12 feet i can go from completely submerged to bone dry from full sun to full shade.
    The main hope for this method is to eliminate all the hanging pots!!!!! Thanks again gary

  • 19 years ago

    Gary, don't you have a picture of your wall, I am dying to see it. Sounds like somthing that I would very much like to try as I also am fond of growing plants in more natural settings and not in pots!

    Japie

  • 19 years ago

    We're also very interested to view the seep wall, sounds like a very attractive way to display plants. We've posted some images of our vertical wall of bromeliads (which we used to cover a retaining wall), which shows that just about any neo can grow in such a situation. What we did was to start with normal sized ones below & use smaller ones as they go higher. See picture below.
    {{gwi:503354}}

  • 19 years ago

    Would love to see anyone else photos on vertical planting. Found this link on the internet we thought everyone might enjoy.

    Here is a link that might be useful: vertical gardens

  • 19 years ago

    Wow, fantastic link, jaga! Such soothing and beautiful designs, and such a wide variety of settings, with the appropriate plant materials chosen for each one. That guy really knows what he's doing!

    Reminds me a bit of Stephania's posting from the Chiang Mai Royal Flora Expo:

    Here is a link that might be useful: Hollow log........ or is it?

  • 19 years ago

    Check the link below, the ultimate vertical gardens. Technicaly they are seep walls.
    This green haired French dude really knows the trick.

    The site does not work well on every computer, in that case you can choose the html version.

    Have fun, it's very nice.
    Sander

    Here is a link that might be useful: Patric Blanc's website

  • 19 years ago

    Oops I didn't see Jaga's post.

    To make up for that, another link.
    This is how us Dutch make vertical gardens in our homes.
    Well some of us...

    Here is a link that might be useful: Also very nice..

  • 19 years ago

    Sander, that's the same link that jaga posted above, but if anyone missed it the first time, be sure to check it out!

  • 19 years ago

    You just missed my 'oops' by 3 minutes.
    Check the other link, it's also really good.

    Sander

  • 19 years ago

    Hi
    Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and the links.
    I don't have a decent camera and have been using the disposable types . Took two rolls during construction and not a single one came out!!. Taking pix of it is so difficult anyway. Can't get back far enough to get the whole wall and the glass casts reflections as well as bounces the flash.. Have yet to get one underwater pic.
    . I've always been an orchid freak so don't have much experience with broms.. I just want a few as I want to save room for some of the oddball epiphytes.. The biggest the wall can be is 9x20 so will have to conserve space. Thanks again gary

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