Well, it's not my cross, although I've got the only individual of that particular clone, so it might as well be. I was just looking at it and it's actually got quite a bit of green in it, but it is very high contrast.

If it had markings like Vr. racinae, that would be a good name. Hmmmm..... wondering how I can make a black and white racinae hybrid....

Wow I sure thought it looked black and white...I have 3 names picked out in case one of mine becoes worth naming. But the longer I think about the names they are more fitting to Vriesea than a Neo

This is him in the front, along with his grexmates. You can see the outer leaves are more green, although the center is getting close to black and white.

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The whole grex is pretty nice, as opposed to the kind of low percentage you'd expect to get from a Neo. cross, there aren't really any "bad" ones. That one was the only one I took home though, and that was a real arm-twister! ;-)

whew!!..... glad my eyes werent failing me I thought the center was black and white ... dice on the big green felt.."rollem"

That looks like a living Rorschach test! Great plants Lisa.

'Rorschach' would be a good name for something, gonzer. I'll have to file that one away for future reference. I'm kind of particular about names though-- just ask Dr. Larry! ;-)

I've never named someone else's plant either, and wouldn't do it without permission, although in this case I doubt she'd care. If I can't get her to slap a name on this Neo. soon, though, I may have to take matters into my own hands:

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It's one of my favorites, and I've been propagating it as well as crossing to it, so I want to be able to call it something. It's a sibling of 'Dark Diva', but I actually like this one better. It's a very strong, sturdy plant and not as tempermental as some Neos can be.

how large is that plant?

The Neo? Medium sized, about like 'Charm' or 'Royal Cordovan'.

Lets hear the name for it..it sure deserves a name

Well, I don't know..... if it were me, I'd give it a name with "pagoda" in it, just because I always associate that curvature of the leaf tips with the way the edges of a roof turn up in oriental architecture. You see a fair amount of that in some of the houses around here. It could be 'Royal Pagoda', 'Red Pagoda', I don't care, just call it SOMETHING. I suggested that, but........ no response.

good choice on the Pagoda..very appropriate

"Ruby Pagoda"

Neo. 'Open Arms'

good name but I dont see the connection of "Open Arms"

The connection could be ,that if you send one to gonzer,he'd welcome it with 'Open Arms' ;-))
Bob

'Ruby Pagoda' works for me, but I'll bet if I start calling it that, then it'll get registered it as something else entirely, *just* to make life difficult.

Now, why would I think that? Don't ask. ;-)

its like my cruenta X royal burgundy it was never given a name :( and it sure deserves one....

Well, y'know, it's not always that clear whether to name something or not. I don't believe in registering all of the crappy stuff, and there's no point in naming anything that you don't intend to propagate, but there is a grey area of things that are not good enough to register, but not trash either, so you want to try to recoup something for the time and effort put in by selling off a few pups, even though you may not want to propagate the thing in a big way. Or maybe it's a nice plant but it looks pretty similar to one or more other things that are already out there, so why complicate things?

If you look at all of the broms on FCBS (which is just a fraction of what's actually been registered), the percentage of cvs. that are distinct, memorable and commercially viable is not really that high. I think that hybridizers ought to save the good names for the good stuff.

Neos are one thing, because the percentage of good clones from a cross is usually pretty low. This actually makes it a lot easier in a way, because then you can select the one or two most promising ones and chuck the rest. But what do you do when every seedling is saleable, like that Vriesea grex at the top of the page, or like Dyckia crosses? You select out the few that you like the most, and then sell off the rest with just the name of the cross. To the person who buys it, they may think it deserves a cv. name, but you can't name every seedling in the grex, especially if there are hundreds of them and they all look similar, and you don't know if anybody's ever going to propagate it or not.

I agree Lisa but when I walk into a greenhouse full of broms and I see 1 or 2 that stand out..to me its time to look closer at those. The plant I mentioned was obtained at the same place yours was and is being grown...with no name

True, but after you walk through 5 or 6 greenhoses that look like this you probably wouldn't notice that one! ;-)

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None of this stuff has been named yet as far as I know, so you see what I'm up against.

I don't recall seeing that cruenta cross, but I did one with the red cruenta and Dexter's Pride which looks pretty similar to it. I haven't named that one either, LOL.

ahhh but beauty is in the eye of the beholder......

Righto Bob! Lisa, what cross is the plant in the greenhouse that's 2nd from the left of the 18th one near the back just right of the 71st one in the third row from the front? ;-P

If they were my greenhouses or my plants, gonzer, there's a remote chance I might actually be able to answer that, but since they aren't, you have my permission to call it whatever you want!