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19 years ago

Just had to share my Neo.Royal Burgundy, how's this for color?

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Comments (19)

  • 19 years ago

    Hey Patris,
    Nice, but I've tried to create that colourful on my Dyckia hybrids!
    how...how...?

  • 19 years ago

    Nice flash of red, but it's not 'Royal Burgundy'. Looks like it could be one of the Groves hybrids-- 'Debbie', 'Tangerine', or possibly even 'Grace'.

    RB is very dark and glossy and covered with tiny green spots (hard to see the spots in this picture):

    Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:511843}}

  • 19 years ago

    Hmm got these from Bullis and had these name tags on them. I never bothered to check the plant with the picture.

    This one should be Neo. RB
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    The one with the pretty color should be Neo. Rivera. Lisa please let me know if this is correct.

  • 19 years ago

    I think you've got it right, Patris. I don't have 'Rivera', but your plant matches the pictures I've seen.

  • 19 years ago

    could be Rivera depends on how large it is Riv a very small well stacked plant

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks Lisa, now I need to go out and go through the ones I bought from Bullis. If one was wrong?????

    Stephania, have you tried an air brush? LOL If you could manage to get that intense color it would be stunning on a Dyckia!

  • 19 years ago

    Hey Patris,

    This would be occurred...:-)
    Someday, if I will try to use this Dyckia 'Yellow Glow' as the seed parent.

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    Then, I choose red leaves Dyckia, such as Dyck. reitzii var. rubra as pollen parent.

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    This would be a result :-))

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  • 19 years ago

    Great idea, Stephania! I think that should be your next project. Maybe you can even figure out how to cross a Dyckia with Navia igneosicola:

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  • 19 years ago

    Little more tweeking that baby Stephania and it will be a keeper! :~)

    Your Yellow glow is sure a happy camper, beautiful color.

  • 19 years ago

    Stephania,how do you do it? My D.'Yellow Glow'is as green as an apple! Even after a summer in the sun. ;( Maybe its too young to yellow-up yet?

    Thats a good idea for a cross you have. Put me on the list for offspring.
    But just coloring up the pic is a lot faster. ;)
    Lisa's igneosicola is a beauty,almost as good as your suddenly colorful 'Yellow Glow' :).

    Hey Lisa,I've had an igneosicola for a couple of years now,and tho its grown some from a pup size,to about 2/3 grown,it shows no sign of blooming anytime soon.And is more of an upright growing plant than flattened out like your pic shows. How old was yours before if bloomed,and does if flatten out then ?
    Bob

  • 19 years ago

    Bob, that Navia is not an easy thing to grow. It's the only brom I have that has a dormancy period, during which all the foliage turns brown and must be removed. The pups are also extremely difficult to root unless you leave them on the plant long enough that they form a kind of pseudobulb. If you take them off too young you'll lose them 90% of the time.

    The problem is that as soon as they come out of their dormancy they start growing new leaves very quickly and then they'll usually flatten out and bloom almost immediately, so the trick is to leave the pups on as long as possible, but then remove them before they break dormancy and just hope that they'll have enough time to root before they bloom, otherwise you won't get that nice bright color combination. Until it roots the plant can't take up nitrogen into the foliage to turn the leaves green, so if the blooming season hits during that time the plant will just be an unappealing dull brick red all over. Timing is really critical on this one.

    Not all of the pups will bloom immediately, but if they don't then they have to go through another dormancy period and have their leaves cut off, which leaves you with a rosette on top of a tall stalk with a lot of old leaf stubs on it. If your plant has gone several years without blooming it must look something like a totem pole by now!

    In addition they are total mealybug magnets, the tiny fine spines at the base of the leaves are fairly nasty if you get one lodged in your finger, and the blooming coloration, while spectacular, fades quickly. So why do I grow them? Because when I do manage to get the timing right they sell like hotcakes!

    I started them all from seed so I have quite a few of them. I didn't know about the dormancy thing when I sowed them and was just about to toss out the whole tray of seedlings, thinking that they must be high elevation plants that were simply unhappy in our tropical climate, when all of a sudden they burst into new life. They must have read my thoughts!

    The most interesting thing to me is that they bloom at the same time as Guz. sanguinea and Ae. biflora. 3 plants from 3 different subfamiles that don't (to my knowledge)overlap in geographical range, but that share the same seasonality, the same unusual color scheme and the same flash-in-the-pan style of blooming. If someone can explain that to me I'd love to hear it!

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  • 19 years ago

    What a magnificent plant Lisa !
    Really stunning...it must be in my want list.
    I think this genus is only one in Pitcairnioideae that the leaves flush of colour when blooming.

    Patris & Bob, I think my tropical sun overhere is a trick :-)
    The plants receive 5-6 hours of direct sun without any filter.
    If you face them here, you won't believe how perfect 'Yellow' they really do.

  • 19 years ago

    I think it's a kind of convergence evolution.
    May be, if we knew, these plants need the same group of specific pollinators
    that would be attracted by the same type of blooming.

    By the way, same kind of people :-))

  • 19 years ago

    That was my theory too, HDD, but when I posited that on another forum somebody pointed out that insects can't see color. That plus the fact that they don't occur in the same region kind of throws a monkey wrench into that theory, unless they're pollinated by some migratory bird that can see color.

    ?????????????

  • 19 years ago

    HDD DIDNT post here but I will now....insects are attracted to fragance or odor making seeing unnecessary so I see your theory as viable

  • 19 years ago

    Whoops, that was Stephania, not you, HDD, but I don't follow your point.

  • 19 years ago

    Here is my Neo Rivera for comparison. Mine was purchased at Tropiflora.
    JG
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  • 19 years ago

    Rivera pups like crazy too. The one I got from Trop in April has 4 pups

  • 19 years ago

    Hi all,I kinda question the fact that insects can't see color,[regardless of science]because broms in bloom are really very colorful for the purpose of attracting pollenators. That Nature would provide colors to attract pollenators would be useless if it could not be seen by them.Perhaps they see the colors differently than we do. And we know that broms are seldom able to provide a fragrance,tho some do,unless its there,but not detectable by humans. A difficult point to argue,but just something that came to mind.
    Bob

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