Some kind of hybrid, but not one I recognize offhand.

Reminds me a bit of a few I've gotten that I consider to be "works in progress", i.e. has some good qualities which could be brought out even more with further crossing.

I defiantly love the banding or water markings which ever they are..

here is one of the pups
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The banding is unusual. I've done a lot of work trying to get banded markings, and they've usually come out "flat", whereas this one has kind of an "overlapping" look, giving it kind of a "reptile skin" effect, or as you say, like water marks. I've seen a similar effect on Bill Baker's 'Tiger', although that's a completely different plant. I'm wondering which species in its background might be responsible for that. For some reason this looks like it may have farinosa in it, but that's just a wild guess.

Where did it come from? No name at all?

I have been growing this plant for 5 yrs and it had no tag. I thought at first the original plant was just abused but.....this banding cotinues thru the generations...sometimes the matue plant has the pinkish coloration..sometimes redish...but always has the bands..no matter how much light or fertilizer its given...I have been told it was Lambert's pride but i dont think so..I have Lambert's pride in another greenhouse and they dont have the same bands. The pups at first resemble Victoria's secret but after just a few months that changes...

Nope, not 'Lambert's Pride' and probably not any of its hybrids either. That is the main plant that both Sharon and I crossed to when we were first starting out because, unlike many others, it doesn't lose its banding in warm climates ('Victoria's Secret' is one of her LP crosses). As I said, the banding that it produces tends to be more 2-dimensional, not the kind of multi-layered overlapping ripple effect that you see here. It's also more orange in tone, as are many of its hybrids, but of course it all depends on what you cross it with.

I keep thinking coriacea is in the parentage somewhere but I dont have a coriacea to look at soooooooooo...what would a concentrica X coriacea look like? Or is that an impossiblity?

Well, I can see how you might say that if all you've seen is the FCBS pic of coriacea, but the actual plant doesn't look anything like that. I couldn't find a single decent picture of it on the web, and even this old photo doesn't really show the true color. The center turns a pale blue, which doesn't photograph well. The underwater portion of the cup comes pretty close, but the rest makes it look pinker than it really is:

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Aside from that, the things that I consider coriacea traits are a wide leaf with an emarginate (notched) tip, and that distinctive upturned terminal spine. I think we talked about that before in such hybrids as Royal Cordovan, Quintessence and Debbie. No banding to speak of, at least not in my clone.

I'm not seeing any concentrica there, either. The vibe I get is either farinosa, macrosepala, magdalenae or something along those lines, crossed with....???????

The banding is a puzzle. Generally banding falls into one of 3 categories: banded marmoration, like Lambert's Pride, Bob and Grace, etc.; concentric banding, like concentrica, johannis, etc.; and zonation, like ampullacea, zonata, carcharodon 'Tiger' and the like. These occur on different levels of tissue, although marmoration and zonation will occasionally combine. Concentric banding doesn't combine with the other types, at least in my experience. You can have both, but they'll exist on separate planes, as it were, rather than fusing. The banding on your plant doesn't really fit neatly into any of those categories, HDD, which is why it intrigues me.

I did find out that its a Allan Freeman plant or cv of one of his....and I sadly just heard that he is very ill :(

I'm sorry to hear he's not well. I don't know him but he's done some beautiful hybrids. I recently picked up an Awesome Aussie and I'd like to get some of his others too.

This plant doesn't look like any of his registered cvs though, at least as far as I can see, but it may help narrow down the possibilities as far as parentage.