If I understand the question correctly, it's because the hybridizer doesn't always get around to officially registering the plant, but somebody may have taken it upon themselves to submit the name and as much information as they knew about it, either from their own personal knowledge, or from Journal articles, growers' lists, etc. I think Don Beadle did a lot of that when he was registrar, because the registry went from being a slim booklet to a pretty hefty volume during his tenure.

Now that it's online there have been a lot more registries because it's just easier to do now. You used to have to fill out all kinds of forms with dates and measurements etc. and mail them in, and the whole process was kind of intimidating, so a lot of people just didn't do it.

Most of mine are still not registered, but occasionally someone will beat me to it and get a picture on FCBS, like with Blushing Tiger. That doesn't count as registry, though. I have since registered that one, and am currently brainstorming trying to come up with names for a bunch of others, and they'll get registered at some point in the near future. I'd rather wait until they're actually available before I send a picture to FCBS, but I'm planning to get some newer stuff to Michael soon, so it's just a matter of time.

woohoo!! Send a Big 'O' PLEASE................
Ok that explains my question the name is shown but not officialy registered

Yeah, it's coming, but you'll have to give him a while to propagate it! That's funny, of all of the pictures I sent him, that was the one he was most excited by too, not sure why. It's a cool little plant though, and it grows quickly and pups freely, so maybe in another year....

blame me for that excitement Lisa :)

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If you like that one, you'll love this one:

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Ok which one is that? drooooooooooool.................

Take a wild guess........Blueberry Tiger!

I was originally going to wait until the next World Conference to release it, but I think I'd rather just deal with Michael than try to get one to Australia.

I really love this guy, it catches everyone's eye! Now, if I could just get a wider leaf on it and some cup color, I could declare victory and hang up the pollinating tools for good! ;-)

OK I ordered 3 hehe :)

What a beauty!

Yummy Lisa!! I can see why it has and will make heads turn. I'll take 3 also.

hey I saw it first LOL

Hey hey hey....... you're all just going to have to take a number and wait in line! I only have a few myself, and Michael needs time to propagate whatever I can send him. Looks like I'd better jack up the price now, huh? ;-)

Meanwhile, I've got a crop of F2s started. Maybe I'll get something even better than the parent, who knows? They're still small:

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but I did spot off some of the larger ones into a tray a few months ago...

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and one or two of them are showing me something, but it's still too soon to tell.

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I don't grow them out very far before I start culling though, particularly with something like this where I know what I'm looking for and it should show up fairly early on in the game. Both their mommy and their grandma showed their stripes at a tender age, and turned out to be the only ones in their respective grexes worth keeping. I like it when that happens, as it saves me a lot of time and space!

I am in line .....I started it!! LOL

I dunno, I think Ray's ahead of you, hdd! :-p

Lisa,me being a Sr.Citizen,I get 'front of the line' preference,AND Sr.discount too !
Bob ;))

ummm ..not on all the plants hehe :)~

hey the butting in line Bob !!!!!!!

Jeez, I can't take you kids anywhere! Don't make me have to separate you.........

Ummmmm....but mom I really really really want those :)

Love the baby pics Lisa. First time I have gotten to see them that size and showing color already. Wow!

If it will make a difference Lisa you have always been my favorite!

Gee, thanks Patris, but pictures of dead presidents have always been my favorite........ ;-)

Seriously, save it, it's out of my hands! I'll let Michael figure it all out, but don't bug him yet. In the meantime, get out those pollinating tools and see what you can come up with!

Hi Lisa, what age are your seedlings when they start to show colour....?

devo, if you can make out the tag on that community pot above you'll see I started them about a year ago, but they would probably be quite a bit bigger by now if I hadn't sown them so thickly in the pot. If they have plenty of space and get fertilized along the way you can get results a lot more quickly. Of course if you fertilize TOO MUCH they'll all look green for quite a while and you won't be able to tell what you've got, so a happy medium is best. The ones that I already pulled out and spotted off in the tray as you can see are really starting to take off now, but they're the same age as the others still in the pot.

Ideally with Neos you should be able to get a mature specimen in about 2 years (at least in our year-round growing climate), and depending on the nature of the coloration/markings, they might show up as early as 6-8 months, but it is pretty variable. This type of banding tends to show up earlier than some other kinds, and since that's primarily what I'm looking for here, I can start culling these pretty early.

Below is a different grex that I started at roughly the same time. You can see some color on a couple of the larger seedlings, but it won't develop fully until it's nearly mature, and I won't be able to tell what the form will be like for a while either. By the time they start to crowd the tray, though, I should be able to tell which ones I want to grow out further and then just chuck out the rest. Other hybridizers may prefer to grow them all out before evaluating them, but I have space issues that prevent me from doing that. I may be missing out on some winners, but hey, that's life!

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O...I see that tag now...thanks for the info. Unfortunately, in our climate, Neo's take at least 3, usually 4 or more years to reach maturity. I have been growing on my few batches until the first mature, then make selections. But, still each time I cull the debate is...should it go, or, should it stay. But space is a major issue, not helped by growing sp of Alcantarea from seed as well. (Maybe the 'Virtical Gardening' forum could help...) And to make matters worse, my baby has flowered this summer, so could have many more seedlings to accommodate!
Lisa, may I ask another question....?
Your seedlings trays have seem to have perlite spread over the top. Is this just in the mix, or do you find it helps reflect light, and assist growth...?

The perlite is just part of the mix. I first sow the seeds on sphagnum moss, which binds well and has good moisture-holding properties, and then move the small seedlings into a fine peat/perlite or peat/perlite/vermiculite mixture. Our usual mix contains a lot of cinder, and is much too coarse for the little guys. You can see that in the pot of the mature plant above. When it's available I like to add a top dressing of orchid bark at that point, to help control weeds and retain moisture.

Do you ever have problems with damping off? How do you avoid that?

It doesn't seem to be a major problem, philofan, but it does ocasionally happen, and I'm not real sure what to do about that. We don't use the Big Chemicals anymore, although I was just looking at the label for M-Pede (Safer Soap) and was surprised to see that it's supposedly a fungicide as well as an insecticide. Maybe I'll try that on some of the black spot fungus that keeps showing up on the Neos, but I don't know if it'd do anything for seedlings.

I've sprayed Physan (or whatever the other name for the product is) on seedlings to help keep the algae down, and it doesn't seem to hurt them any, but I don't know if it would prevent damping off.

I have a bigger problem with slugs getting in there and mowing them all down! :-(

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