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19 years ago

Okay - here's the deal. I'm looking for suggestions, ideas, advice, etc.

I recently completed some landscaping. A new retaining wall around the garage as well as a new flower bed. The plan all along has been to put flowers in the spaces, but I think I can dedicate a portion to a butterfly garden. It just sounds like something different to add to the current landscape. I'm an experienced gardener - I start my own seeds and tend to many different plants (vegetables, herbs, roses, perennials, annuals, shrubs, trees - I do them all), so dealing with the plants isn't an issue. I'm looking for advice as to site, layout and plant selection in my zone 5 garden. The current plan is to put things in around the garage. The new planting area is maybe 100 feet long and 6 feet wide and wraps around the garage with north, east and south exposures. In the north garden I'm planning on shade tolerant plants (hostas, ferns, etc). It's the only real shade on my property. That leaves me with the east and south sides. Which would be best? The east side will get afternoon shade from the garage, while the south side get's no shade...ever.

What about plants? Suggestions? I'm in central Iowa, zone 5. I would like to get some plants in the ground this summer that will survive the winer and get a good start next year. Also, I would like to stay away from aggressive invasive plants.

What what other things should I include besides the plants?

Lastly, what should I avoid?

I wont be planting for a few weeks (vacation next week and I'm still filling in with soil).

Thank you for reading my post and thanks in advance for you help.

Matt

Here is a link that might be useful: My Garden Blog

Comments (5)

  • 19 years ago

    Ok, I'm semi new to this, but I live in zone 5 ;) I was just reading in a magazine last night about butterfly gardening. And they mention that a butterfly garden should be in full sun, because, as they mention, most BF can't fly unless their body temp is high enough, and most BF attracting plants need full sun. But I've seen butterflies on my Astible, which only gets morning sun.

    Some plants they list and BF's attracted, hardy to us are:

    Perrenials:

    Butterfly weed (Asclepias tuberosa)- Red Admirals, swallowtails, monarcs, & skippers -best started as seed, doesn't transplant easily
    New England aster (Aster novae-angliae)-Painted Ladies, pearl cresents, sulphurs, and whites
    Butterfly Bush (Buddleja)- Monarchs, swallowtails, sulphurs, & skippers- (I've heard a lot of people in our zone say they can't grow this, Black Knight is a good variety that winters over)
    Stokes' aster (Stokesia laevis) - E. Tiger Swallowtail, baltimore cherckerspots

    Annuals:

    Marigold-Sulphurs, pearl crescents & sleepy oranges
    Starflower (Pentas Lanceolata)- Monarchs, swallowtails and painted ladies
    Mexican Sunflower (Tithonia rotundifolia)- Painted ladies & Monarchs
    Verbena (Verbena hybrids) - sulphurs, dogfaces & spicebush swallowtails
    Lantana (lantana camara)- Pearl crescents, alfalfas, and buckeyes
    Zinnnia-spicebush swallowtails, skippers and monarchs

    That was their list. I'd add Purple coneflowers, (or other variety of coneflowers), Salvia, Bee Balm, and milkweed and Queen Anne's lace off the top of my head.

  • 19 years ago

    Hi Matt, I was just thinking of posting a similar question - I am glad I found your post first.

    I'd like to have some of the "regulars" here tell us what they are growing, that is "tried-and-true" for caterpillars.

    I'm in Z6 and get winter (not as bad as Iowa though) and I wonder if things like Passion Vine and other tropicals can be over-wintered in the house.

    Anyone with a seasonal butterfly garden have some tips for us?

    thanks!

    Jeri in Texas

  • 19 years ago

    Jeri, passiflora incarnata and ceurulea both should be root hardy in the Texas panhandle.

    I think several folks have overwintered tropical milkweed indoors over winter. I don't have the room, so I have to start them from seed every year. Other milkweeds are root hardy in your area, like Asclepias incarnata, A. syriaca, A. viridis, Antelope Horns, etc. I can't believe there's a zone 6 anywhere in Texas! LOL!

    Other hardy perennials you might want to try are False Nettle (boehmeria cylindrica) for Red Admirals, Questions Marks; Hops vine (humulus) for Question Marks; Pipevine (Aristolochia tomentosa, A. macrophylla, A. serpentaria, A. clematitis, and there's another one used in Texas that I don't recall right now) for the Pipevine Swallowtails; Rue (BSTs and GSTs); parsley, fennel and dill (BSTs) (I don't grow dill because it bites the dust in our summer heat); Sunflowers (Silvery Checkerspots, Gorgone Checkerspots, and Bordered Patches); Verbesina encelioides (Golden Crownbeart) for Bordered Patches); plantain and ruellia, for the Buckeyes.

    Check out the FAQs which has a section on host plants for various butterflies.

    I would think you could grow almost anything we can grow in Oklahoma at least.

    Susan

  • 19 years ago

    Susan, thanks so much! I think we can grow almost everything that you can in OKC; y'all have just a little more humidity. (however we've been more humid than we are accustomed to this summer)

    I have had fennel in my garden for years and have watched the BST cats it attracts. This year I planted sunflowers for the first time and I'm inundated with the black cats! That is what really piqued my interest in butterfly gardening... I am having a blast watching "my" babies.

    I have printed out your list of plants, and will look for them. I might have time left this summer to start some perennial plants in pots and then transplant them this fall. I really, really appreciate you sharing the information!

    Jeri in Texas

  • 19 years ago

    Butterfly Bush dies back to the ground in my zone but comes up again later in the year. The brookings arboretum has some nice 4-foot white ones blooming in the fall before it is killed down by frost again.