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Nepenthes going brown

17 years ago

Hello,

I am in the UK and bought a Nepenthes Alata, highland type last summer.

It was thriving in my north facing conservatory during summer and I read that I should keep it at between 10 and 15 degrees.

So as it got colder around October it was not needing any water at all so I brought it inside to my bathroom which is at a constant 15 degrees.

It is in a light position but out of direct sunlight.

Since I moved it the leaves are all turning brown and it looks like the whole plant is dying.

Is there anything I can do to save it?

Should I cut off all the brown leaves and stems?

Comments (13)

  • 17 years ago

    Can you post a pic of it???

  • 17 years ago

    Sometimes moving neps from one room to another will send the plant into a mild shock. Reason is that normally different rooms in the house have different temperatures, lighting conditions, and humidity. So if you take it from on room for whatever reason, the plant may or may not go into a light shock. But they do recover quickly if they are a well established plant with strong roots.

    But what concerned me is the statement: "So as it got colder around October it was not needing any water at allÂ"

    What do you mean it was not needing any water? Did you stop watering it?

    If so, you may have accidentally killed it by letting itÂs media dry out. Neps donÂt require much water on their soil like most CPs, just enough to keep it soil moist.

    The most you can do now is cut the dead leaves, but be careful what you cut off from the stem, make sure the growing tip is dead too. Other then that, water the pot and hope for the best. Neps can be quite resilient and bounce back.

    Good Luck!

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for the replies.

    I have taken some pictures this morning and will try to post them.

    Hunterkiller03,

    In the summer I was watering with rainwater every 2 or 3 days and spraying the leaves every day but as Autumn set in the conservatory was not getting as hot during the day and was cooler at night and the compost was remaining damp and not drying out so I just sprayed the leaves daily at this time.

    I had to bring the plant indoors because the temperatures were dropping to 5 degrees and my bathroom is a constant 15 degrees (I have a thermometer attached to the plant pot).
    I read that my plant likes to be kept between 10 and 15 degrees.

    I do not know how I can post my pictures here which I have saved to my hard disk, can anyone please explain?

  • 17 years ago

    Do the leaves of Nepenthes Alata ususally stay green all year round?

    Can someone please explain how I post my pictures of my plant?

  • 17 years ago

    To post a pic, upload you pic to a photo hosting website like PhotoBucket or WebShots etc...
    After it's uploaded the site will give you different codes to link or embed the photo in a post...
    Copy the Link/Code that says Direct Link or URL then paste it here in the box that says "Optional Link URL"...

    Like mentioned moving them can cause them to go in to Shock...
    Shock may cause some of the weaker leaves to die, but usually the plant will just look like cr*p for a while / Shouldn't kill it...
    Changing the light cycle can also do that...

    If conditions are good leaves / even ones that the pictures have died on should stay green, but they will yellow & die off after time...
    The older, weaker ones will be the first to go if the plant is in shock...

    Could also be cold burn...
    I just had quite a bit of cold damage myself over X-Mas...
    My 3 to 4 day trip turned into a week long one due to getting snowed in & it must have gotten to cold for them while I was gone...
    I had a few leaves that were damaged so bad that I freaked out & started posting pics / Had never seen it that bad & was afraid it was something else that was attacking my plants...
    There's a link below to what that looks like...

    But if the Whole Plant is turning "Brown" it sounds like it's dying...

    A Photo will help (with our guessing / LOL)...

    Here is a link that might be useful: Cold Damage

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for the reply dethcheez,

    I have posted my photos on Webshots. I hope I managed to upload them properly and that you will be able to see them.

    I would appreciate any advice you can give me with regards to saving this plant which I love.

    Here is a link that might be useful: uknepenthes

  • 17 years ago

    Um, wow, that's a lot of brown!

    I donno what to say, has anything changed at all around the plant?

  • 17 years ago

    That doesn't look good at all...

    If it got to cold that could have damaged the leaves bad enough to cause them to brown & die + moving it???

    Neps really don't like dramatic changes...
    Like you can't just take ones that are growing indoors & move them outdoors / The change in sun/light will burn them / Might not kill them, but they will drop their leaves... One of those things that has to be done slowly...
    + There will be times of year when they wont look their best unless they're in a controlled environment...

    I grow mine outdoors (just finally broke down & got a greenhouse for them) & most of them look like %#!* this time of year, but they always bounce right back in the spring...

    After a while they seem to acclimate pretty good even if conditions aren't perfect / But once you change things on them it's like starting all over again...

    Hate to say it, but bust out the scissors...

    I'd say your best bet is to cut off all the dead/brown & dying leaves / Should help promote new growth / Basal shoots...
    Leave the top growing tips on the main steams if they still look alive, if not cut them too & hope for the best...
    You're going to end up with a bald plant / Just bare steams sticking up, but if the plant isn't totally dead it should start growing some new sprouts...

    Might also try using a little diluted fertiliser (with maybe some SuperThrive & B1)...

    Keep the humidity up / Use a plastic bag or something if you have to...
    Don't keep the soil to wet / Defiantly keep it moist / But a bit on the drier side so it doesn't rot...

    Other then that I don't know what else to recommend other then keeping your fingers crossed...
    Sounds harsh, but at this piont...
    But Don't Give Up Hope / I've Had Some Sad Looking Neps Bounce Back...

    Good Luck With It & Hope It Makes It,
    Eric

  • 17 years ago

    Now that is bad. That is more then just plain shock! Your plant looks like itÂs on its last leg.

    I was looking the temp given to your plant. Usually for highland 21-29 ºC with a temperature drop during the night of 12-18 ºC, but you got used to growing 10 & 15 ºC. So that wont be it may have contributed to the decline of your nep when you took it inside in a warm setting but not totally, it has to be something else.

    What type of water did you use? Tap water?

    Did you repot your plant when you 1st got it? If so, what type of soil did you use.

    Have you used pesticide of some sort near your plant to get rid of pests? I had my sister spray bug-killer at flies my nep was attracting, the end result it looked like yours in a couple of days.

    Let us know what you have done to it so me or someone can advice what you can do next. Parts look salvageable so cross you fingers.

    By the way, your plant is not pure alata. ItÂs the popular N. x ÂVentrataÂ, a hybrid between N. alata & N. ventricosa. I can tell because it has the cylindrical shape of alata but its peristome is ruffled like ventricosa. Usually sold as N. alata Âred formÂ.

  • 17 years ago

    Thank-you for the replies.

    As suggested I have cut out all the dead leaves so it looks tall and skinny now and have uploaded another picture.
    Also gave it some baby bio.

    I have always watered and sprayed it with rain water.
    I did not repot the plant when I bought it but in October the hanging pot broke so I bought another one and used the existing compost without adding anymore as there was no room.

    I have not sprayed any insecticide anywhere at home.

    Thanks for letting me know my plant is an N. x 'Ventrata'.
    I had to guess as the label just said Nepenthes when I bought it.
    A few months ago I looked online to find out more about the plant and I found a plant that looked very similar to mine which was marked as Nepenthes Alata.
    It was there I read they like to be kept at between 10-15 degrees.

    I will add the url if that is allowed.

    http://www.easycarnivores.co.uk/site/content/view/15/29/

    Here is a link that might be useful: Nepenthes cut back

  • 17 years ago

    Wrong URL, UKNep... :) That loads the "congratulations, you have uploaded that picture" thing on Webshots. Can you double check the address? :)

  • 17 years ago

    Sorry about that mcantrell.

    If you go to the 7th post in this thread (my 4th) and click the link at the bottom of that post it should take you there.

  • 17 years ago

    You might be better off buying a new plant and keeping it inside from now on, under artificial lighting, where you can give it ~2 hours of light per day.

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