Hello again the DeRoose I had met an unfortunate demise due to conditions out of my control. Along with the miranda (pretty sure it was sold to me in potting soil). I have aquired a ventrata, sanguinea, rebecca soper, and anpother miranda and before any chances happen can I please get some information on these plants. They are 3-4 inches and as always following the instructions of The Savage Garden". BTW the S. rubra ssp. jonesii has flower stalks forming and really curious about getting seed from such a special plant. Thank you in advance.