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tobacco hornworm problem

18 years ago

Well had this happened at the beginning of the growing season there would have been no problem -- the caterpillar would have been duck food. (Since I live in a 3rd floor apt I only had room for one dwarf tomato plant on my balconey.) However, as the plant in question is a determinant type and is in the process of dying off anyway having done its duty, I have no problem letting the 'pillar do his thing. Now he is presently 3-4 inches long -- and I have no doubt will soon descend to pupate. So here are my Q's

Will it pupate and emerge yet this fall or will it overwinter and emerge in spring?

If this is going to be a case of spring emergence, does it have much chance of successfully overwintering in a pot?

(Keep in mind that I live in an apt -- there is no garage or other optional 'cool/chilly but protected' place.)

Comments (6)

  • 18 years ago

    I got a large container and filled it with 5" of dirt. They buried themselves and emerged in May and June.

    I've attached a simular picture of the container I have. I got mine at Target cheap. Mine is semi clear with a gray lid.

    I would think you could use a cardboard box as well.

    Good luck!

    Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:542832}}

  • 18 years ago

    If the soil in your pot is loose, let the hornworm pupate in the pot. Don't move it in. Just leave it until next spring. It shouldn't eclose this late in the year. This will most parallel what happens in nature.

  • 18 years ago

    So the fact that the soil in the pot will definitely freeze solid is not an issue? (Keeping in mind it is on an unprotected balconey........)

    If I were to bring the pot in, temps will likely be too warm resulting in premature emergence, I would think.

  • 18 years ago

    Could you put the pot in a cardboard box or a plastic box that would provide some protection? You could also line the box with newspapers. You just want to allow the pupae to have the same temperatures as the soil about 5 inches below the surface. And, in your neck of the woods, that may be above the freeze line. If so, then I wouldn't worry about the pupae.

    I'd be tempted to take the worm and put it in a gallon-sized plastic bag filled with torn strips of paper toweling. Then I'd watch for pupation. Afterwards, I'd put everything in the produce drawer of the refrigerator until the weather begins to warm up in the spring.

    I put 6 Tomato hornworms in a plastic container full of paper towel strips last fall to over winter. I kept them on my patio in a sheltered place. When spring arrived, I removed the paper toweling and left the pupae bare until they eclosed. Every one of them eclosed just fine. But, our winters are a lot warmer than yours.

  • 18 years ago

    My concern is - it will most likely wonder from the pot. Mine go clear across the yard although they have ample room and fluffy soil where the tomato plants are kept in raised beds.

    I over wintered them in the garage. Do you have a storage room?

  • 18 years ago

    Nope no storage room. Turns out it is now a moot point. Right after I last posted, I went out to peek at the fat bugger and he was gone. Didn't see any sign of soil disturbance so perhaps he did wander away. Hopefully he didn't get eaten.