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dumb avid questions

18 years ago

so barry gave me a vial of avid the last time I went to go visit him. I did some cursory reading on it and it looks like it's pretty nasty stuff...

anyway, I've got a few questions, if you lovely lads and lasses wouldn't mind lending me an ear briefly:

1. a quarter teaspoon to a gallon, right?

2. what part do I NEED to spray? both sides of the leaves and the stems and branches and trunks and and... or just one side of the leaves? I've never had to deal with anything this nefarious before.

3. is there ANY way the desired effect could be achieved with extremely hot water and lots of soap all over the plant in the shower?

4. do I really need "face and eye and skin and and and..." protection, or is that a little on the alarmist side?

5. dammit this sucks

thanks in advance, my trusted brug mentors!

Ria

Comments (11)

  • 18 years ago

    I don't know but will need to know. My Avid will be here next week since I am thinking thats whats wrong with Day Dreams and a double peach.

  • 18 years ago

    I just did some reading up on Avid and it is after all a chemical so you would not want to breath it in or get in on your skin so I would wear gloves and try to not spray when its windy and only use it outside. I also read that it doesn't kill eggs so you have to retreat after they hatch or mix an ovicide with it. It has also been given approval for control of leaf miners, thrips and aphids. It will penetrated young immature leaves so they don't have to be sprayed on both sides but mature leaves do or you will need to strip them. It has some lasting residual effects on adult mites as well. Now off to find some ovicide to mix with mine.

  • 18 years ago

    no one has any firsthand avid advice? I need to do this tonight while I have the intestinal fortitude. LOL.

    Ria

  • 18 years ago

    Ria,

    I had the very same concerns that you do about using the Avid, especially since that I consider myself an organic gardener. But I tried every thing organic to try to gain control over the Broad/Cyclamen Mites but nothing really took care of them, hence I used the Avid. I have to say that I should have bought it a couple of years ago. My brugs look SO MUCH better since I used the Avid.

    Now your concerns about what protection to use. I did have on long sleeves and pants, a regular old dust mask and gloves. I did not use eye protection, I was just very careful not to let it get it in my eyes. Yes, spray when the wind is calm. The main area that you need to hit with the spray is the new top growth. That is where the mites attack. I made up two gallons of sprays and that was enough for me to throughly cover all of the leaves, top and bottom.

    Don't be afraid to spray it, just use common sense precautions.

    Hope this helps you.

    David

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks David. I was hoping you would see this since I knew you could tell her what to do.

  • 18 years ago

    thank you david :)

    I have maybe six or so brugs that are affected, some of which don't even HAVE growing tips anymore. I noticed that the older leaves are completely unaffected, but I should hit there anyway, right?

    and I should do this when the sun's down, right?

    one last thing - should I spray my as yet unaffected brugs as a precaution? someone told me that if one brug is showing signs, ALL of them are infested. heh.

    Ria

  • 18 years ago

    Ria,I used avid for the 1st time last winter in the greenhouse-and it's the best miticide I've used.I do wear one of those high-tech respirators,and goggles when I spray it.Yes-it one quarter teaspoon to a gallon of water.I just sprayed the top of the leaves,since it has a mild systemic effect,and used it in rotation with a few other miticides-kelthane and ortho systemic.But It worked so well I rarely had to spray-when I used to have to spray all the time.My Brugs rarly suffer from mites outside-my problems have always been the worst in the greenhouse.Mark

  • 18 years ago

    Ria,

    I would spray the entire plant, just to make sure that all possible mites are hit with the Avid.

    I always spray in the evening just before the sun goes down. This way you don't have to worry about the hot sun maybe interacting with the spray and doing damage.

    And last, I sprayed all of my brugs, even the ones that did not show any symptoms of being infected. I did this as a precaution, because the mites may have been there but just now showing any signs of being there yet.

    I probably won't be back on the internet tonight. One of our dogs is probably going to have her pups tonight. She is very attatched to me and my wife. She wants both of us in the same room as her. Just say a little prayer that she doesn't have any problems having them.

    David

  • 18 years ago

    Good luck with the pups Dave. I hope all goes well. Good to see you trigger. Haven't seen you on in a while.

  • 18 years ago

    David

    Puppies! Yay! Pics - lots of pics! :)

    Mike

  • 18 years ago

    hey, congrats on your new grandchildren ;) hope everything goes well! thanks so much for the advice!

    I'll probably do my spraying tomorrow evening...

    Ria