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Evil cocoons - finally an answer :(

18 years ago

This year, I noticed a very small yellow cocoon next to one of my young BST cats. I didn't know what it was, and couldn't find any info on the net. I was concerned enough to put the cat and cocoon back outside - just seemed odd to me, and I certainly didn't want whatever was inside that cocoon to hatch inside my house.

Fast forward to the last few weeks. I decided I was done for the season, and left any eggs/baby BSTs in my garden. I did check on them daily. One day I saw one of those little yellow cocoons again, right next to (behind, really) a 2nd instar cat. Hmmm. A week or so later, I see another. Hmmm again. Not liking this. Yesterday, yet another.

I did another search and this time got a hit --- the cats were parasitized by a teeny wasp, so small you can't really see it, and the cocoon that was "next to" the cat was actually a Trichogramma wasp larva that came OUT OF the cat and used the cat's silk to make a cocoon. {{gwi:549195}}

What's worse, when I Googled the wasp by name, HORRORS!!! They sell these wasps to control "nuisance caterpillars" !! I'm just sick! The only good thing I suppose, is that at one point I felt bad for leaving the cats outside to fend for themselves, and almost brought them inside. Sure glad I didn't. This also explains what happened to many of the 2nd instar cats that went missing -- they were infected and after the nasty wasp larva came out, the BST cat simply fell off of the fennel.

What is a little odd is that the ads for these wasps refer to them parasitizing the eggs, so the BST cats never hatch. The wasps in my garden waited until the cats hatched to do their evil deed.

Here's a link to what those little yellow cocoons look like, and an excellent photo of exactly what I saw... a cocoon "next to" a cat. Be sure and scroll down to see how tiny these wasps are.

Here is a link that might be useful: clicky

Comments (10)

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks for sharing! Something else to be on the look out for.

  • 18 years ago

    Yes, it's true that Trichogramma only mess with the eggs. So, even if you're mad at the Trichogramma, get over it. It was a different critter that killed your cat.

    So in spite of what you "learned" and saw in the image at your link, that's not a Trichogramma wasp. Trichogramma are bitty little wasps, with much more simple wings.

    Here's a link to UCD info
    http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/NE/trichogramma_spp.html

    And this link shows an illustration
    http://thailand.ipm-info.org/natural_enemies/parasitoids/trichogramma.htm

  • 18 years ago

    And here's a life cycle illustration from the Encyclopedia Britannica.
    http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/49/6549-004-1D2F6354.gif

    Notice that the pupa is inside the cat's egg rather than exterior to the cat.

    Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:549194}}

  • 18 years ago

    Jean, thanks for the info. So do you know what it was that killed my cats?

  • 18 years ago

    Well, if they're the same as pictured on the web site you linked, likely a small parasitic wasp -- but larger than Trichogramma -- with the technical name Apanteles.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks again, I believe I found it:

    Ichneumon Wasps - Gambrus nuncius (Say) are about 5/16 inch long, reddish-black (basal half of abdomen reddish and rest black with a whitish yellow mark at the tip in females). The first segment of the male abdomen is black. This parasite attacks caterpillars of swallowtail butterflies.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Parasitic wasps

  • 18 years ago

    I have definitely learned something from this thread. Thanks to both of you for posting. I didn't realize eggs could be parasitized.

  • 17 years ago

    it would not have been G. nuncius as they do not parasitize in that way (their larvae remain inside the cocoon and fill it. They then emerge in the spring. Google it and you should be able to find pics or go to buggude.net) and go after promethea moths. Trogus pennator are regular parasitoids of the swallowtail family and frankly are lovely ichneumon wasps but are single and merge from a large single hole in the side of the chrysalis. Keep in mind that these are native and belong here just as much as the butterflies do. I know it is hard to see at times, but nature up close is not always pretty. I raise silkmoths and it took me a couple seasons to appreciate it all.

    Before you flame me ;) there are plenty that you CAN hate, though it is us humans that introduced them in the first place, such as the tachinid fly, Compsilura concinnata, which was introduced to to keep the gypsy moth in check. Now THERE is a parasitoid that is wreaking havoc on lepidoptera, some species of hymenoptera(wasps/bees) and coleoptera as well(beetles).

  • 17 years ago

    But I know exactly how you feel because a number of years ago I lost almost every Anise Swallowtail butterfly cat to a parasite that would kill the cat usually within the first or second instar, probably the second, in the same way. I would watch the cat feed normally for a while and then it would stop eating and just sit motionless for days and then one day it would be still sitting on the stem but looking sort of shrivelled up and there nearby would be a tiny beige cocoon. It would not have bothered me so much had it not taken all but one cat over an entire season. I almost gave up on the butterfly stuff after that season. Unfortunately, I live in a somewhat agricultural environment so there is not much one can do if people decide to import preditory insects to control what they consider pests. The worst part of the experience was that the cats had come from a number of places in my area and had nevertheless managed to come in contact with the same parasites. For awhile I feared that the Anise Swallowtails might never survive or that the other butterflies would be killed off also. Thank God I was wrong. I have not had the problem since.

    I don't know what to say beyond that except that I am not capable of being neutral about the whole food chain thing. It is what it is. Murray

  • 11 years ago

    Thank you so much for this information!! For the first time my husband built an elaborate cover for our fennel that had about 7 small anise swallowtail caterpillars. Slowly each one disappeared, the same problem that we had last year. I finally took the last one inside. It didn't seem active and just a moment ago I noticed that there was a small yellow "cocoon" next to it, the same type that I saw outside on the fennel. I thought there was a correlation but couldn't figure it out. Well now I sadly know what the problems is. Thank you again. The internet is amazing------information at your fingertips!!

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