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Carolina Jessamine Question

19 years ago

I purchased a nice sized C. Jessamine vine. I would like to split it up and pot it in 2 large 'trough' style pots on either end of my free standing arch trellis. I'm renting --so I am not digging up the landlord's soil, but doing most of my gardening in containers this year.

Here is my question--I would like the jessamine to just grow up both sides of the trellis and then I plan to plant annual flowering vines in the same containers-- morning glory, maybe some Kentucky wonder beans too, and other things--moon flower, sweet pea.

does this sound like it would work?

I thought if there is room I'd put some wave style petunias or allysum or something at the bottoms of the vines so it would hang over the containers and have color all summer.

I can move the arch to sun, or part shade--- which is best.. any tips or ideas? better ideas?? Mary

Comments (9)

  • 19 years ago

    If your Carolina jessamine (Gelsemium sempervirens)
    can safly be divived into two plants then yes
    it can be grown in a container I would do no more then
    two vines in that container or you can plant the jessamine
    on one end and two of the other vines at the other end
    the petunia would do ok at the base for ground color
    your jessamine,morning glory and bean would do well in full
    sun just remember when planting in containers your plants
    are going to need more feeding toughout the growing season.

    Blueangel

  • 19 years ago

    Thank you. I have already considered the feeding. Do you think 10/10/10 is ok? I have a big bag left over from last year in ND.

    Otherwise I suppose I could get something water soluble?

    My plan--so far--as a southern newbie is to water in the morning mainly-- check for dryness with my finger and then drench it til it drains if it is dry--leave it alone if damp.
    Does that sound good?
    In the north container plants need fertilizing about every 5th watering--is that about right here too? thanks, Mary

  • 19 years ago

    i'd agree- i think no more than one additional annual vine per side so it doesn't completely shade your jessamine. of course if it's really wide, you could do more- just look at how much room is left on your trellis, know how much the vine you want takes up and judge. the other plants should be fine at the bottom- they'll use more nutrients & water but will help shade roots. jessamine grows in full sun to part shade. it will grow in the shade, but doesn't bloom well.

    what you're doing for watering sound right, and applies to most any potted plant. obviously, the more plants that use the soil, the hotter it gets and the sunnier your site, the more water will be needed more often. in the summer you'll probably be watering daily, maybe even 2x a day during drought. you know, i'm not sure about the fertilizing- since i tend to under do it. i generally use slow release organics that i only apply once or twice a season. so i'll leave that bit of advice to someone else. sounds like it'll be pretty!

  • 19 years ago

    thanks folks!
    I have another question. The C. Jessamine I bought is really root bound. -- the roots just go round and round in the shape of the pot. I popped it in to my planter last night, but I keep having 2nd thoughts. I wonder if I should have tried to soak it maybe and pry some of the roots loose before I planted it. I don't want to shock it, but I'm not sure just planting it as is was the best idea.

    Maybe I ought to lift it out and give it another try? Mary

  • 19 years ago

    If it was really root bound, and the roots went round and round, then I would lift it and try to tease out the roots. If they won't tease out, or unwind with gentle persuasion (and they are well hydrated) then you may have to be more drastic and slice into the root ball a couple of inches at several places around the root ball (3-4 slices). While this will be a 'shock' to the plant, in the long run, it will grow better with roots running out from the root ball from the cuts, instead of them just running around and around as they were growing.

    And from your post, it sounds as though you couldn't divide the jessamine as it is, so if you still want two plants you may still be able to get them. Look carefully at the plant, maybe brushing or rinsing off any soil on the top of the root ball, to see if it has shoots arising from more than one place in the root ball. If it does, you may be able to make a long cut through the whole thing, dividing it in two pieces with growing points in each, and get your two plants.

    Then you wouldn't have to cut at the sides of the root ball as well, unless there are large roots going round and round. If that is the case, while you would get new root growth from where you divided it, you might not get new growth spreading from where the roots just circle. It would be healthier and stronger with growth from all sides of the root ball. Make a slice a few inches into the half-root-ball in the middle of the 'round' side.

    And if you already know all this, my apologies. It is something many peole aren't aware of, and I would rather err on the assumption of less knowledge than to assume more knowledge on your part.

  • 19 years ago

    Well... I considered this and decided to give it another go.

    dibbit--Your information was not too much at all--thank you. I have divided shrubs and etc before--but just have never had one of this particular plant before and I had read someone's earlier post that her 'swamp jessamine' had lost all its leaves after she transplanted it. i wasn't sure if that was the same plant and it got me worried. I've been potting things up for years and haven't really had much trouble with transplant shock before--but I've never gardened in the south--so I just don't assume anything I already know is even close to correct. :)

    Anyhow-- I lifted her out of the container and set her down on some newspaper on the kitchen floor and I rolled her a little then pressed down on her sides and was happy to see things loosened up quite alot. So I started working the dirt out--and found there was more root than dirt--but-- happily she divided up into some pretty obvious clumps. Actually she not only made 2 plants--she is 4. 2 large sized ones, a medium and a little one.

    So I will be able to fill both my containers afterall and let her climb up both sides of the Arch trellis.

    I was thinking about all the above advice to only put one annual vine in the container with this one. The containers are quite big-- and I wasn't sure about that. But then I realized. I'm used to anual vines in the north--where it takes most of the summer just to get them to bloom a litle bit. You should have seen my poor morning glories in Fargo last year! I never did see the moonflower bloom. I suppose they will be a bit more vigorous here--so
    yes--I suppose I wouldn't want to overcrowd things.

    Well, my vine divisions are sitting in a big canner of water getting a little soaking and I'll pot them up in awhile.

    Thank you so much for all the help! I am really loving this weather! I love telling all my Wisconsin and Minnesota family and friends things like--I'm sitting outside barefoot --while we chat on the phone. Makes up for all the razzing I got last year when I lived in Fargo. Mary

  • 19 years ago

    sounds like it went really well.

    if the area gets some sun, you shuold have blooms on mg's by midsummer. moonflowers do take longer, but with plenty of sun you should see lots of bloom before frost. most of the mg clan gets big by the end of thge summer, which is why i advised only 1 per pot with the jessamine, but use your judgement. you can trim mg's halfway through the season to keep them in bounds if they get too happy. i grew 'picotee' last year and the flowers were stunning, but the plants were more well behaved than typical mg's. a strange one in the same family, but looks utterly different, is mina lobata. spanish flag is the common name, and it makes wands of yellow to red flowers from about august or september through hard frost (usually nov here). very pretty vines, too.

    i'm from PA, and i love teasing them about what nice weather we are having when its snowy, icy or otherwise yucky up there. then of course they are the ones laughing when we are sweltering in july with 98 degree days. ah, but we have ac to escape to. :) tammy

  • 19 years ago

    Actually 98 or even 100 is not at all uncommon in Wisconsin or North Dakota in summer and humidity can be very high too. So-- I think its still a pretty good situation here. Last year one day in early December I had about 1/4 inch thick of ice completely covering my car. --driving and walking was completely treacherous. We were all worried that the electric would go cuz of so much ice and snow on the wires. And it was a 'mild' winter they say.

    ok--well this was supposedly a 'cool' winter--and I am pretty good with it. Mary

  • 15 years ago

    i recently went looking for a vine to make a fairy crown for my daughter, found the carolina vine and soaked it overnight. looked it up the next day and saw how poisonous it is. does anyone know anything about using the vine and how dangerous it is? i quickly got it out of my house, but it grows all over my yard. should i cut it all down. i see most people on this site want it. should i be scared of it?