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Leafs yellowing and falling off prematurely

Can anyone give me some ideas why several of my brugs are losing leaves (and buds) prematurely? One looks like a stick with a tuft of leaves at the top! LOL! I've been picking off yellowing leaves nearly every day from several plants. I realize some loss of older leaves is normal. But they've been yellowing further and further up the plant.

They were planted in the ground in May and will be dug for the Fall. I did till in some compost, but I suspect the soil is still too clayish. I water them a lot since there is a thirsty oak tree about 30 feet away. The brugs seems to lose more leaves AFTER a good watering. Could the clay soil be holding too much water?

This bed was previously lawn and the soil was quite dense. It had been treated last Fall with a pre-emergent lawn fert, but I don't think that would be a factor.

Also, I did some spraying with Sevin. Could that be a factor?

I think next year I will till in manure, compost, and humus down to at least 8 inches as I suspect it's a soil issue.

Any and all help would be much appreciated.

Comments (14)

  • 18 years ago

    Brugs leaves will yellow and fall off due to too wet of soil. Try letting them dry out a day or two and see if there is any new leaves growing in or if the leaf drop stops. If it continues, I would dig up the brug and inspect the roots for rot.
    Some brugs don't like certain pesticides sprayed on them and will drop leaves and buds as well. But if the leaf loss is starting from the bottom up and the top leaves aren't dropping all of a sudden from the spray I would go with the overly wet roots theory.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks so much. That's something to start with anyway.

  • 18 years ago

    Dave, I've been pulling off leaves also (not as many as you) I don't think. I agree with the previous poster...also
    you must be careful with the Sevin..of course you know that
    it doesn't take but a LIGHT spray.
    Margaret

  • 18 years ago

    Margaret,

    Thanks.

    Maybe it's a combination of things, but the leaves have been dropping badly all summer -- even before spraying.

  • 18 years ago

    I read somewhere that using sevins will make the spider mite population explode as well but know that for sure. Can you take a pic of them? I would dig them up and check the roots as well. I had one doing that and it was just getting more sun than it could handle so I moved it and it recovered nicely. The other one that had funky leaves I believe had broad mites so I am treating it.

  • 18 years ago

    Some of mine are dropping leaves too, in fact most of them. They did the same thing last year at this time (I made a note). The days are getting shorter & I think they don't need all those "grow big" leaves now. They lose them & then seem to concentrate on forming buds. As long as there are still some leaves on it & they look healthy, I wouldn't worry too much.

    Linda

  • 18 years ago

    Most brugs seem to go through a vegetative growth- growing leaves and and then go through a flowering phase-setting buds and blooming, then kinda sit and rest, then grow again etc. If you watch your brugs closely you will notice that they will need more water when actively growing or actively flowering and less when resting. I have gotten myself into trouble with smaller brugs when watering them too much when they weren't actively growing or flowering. Not that this is your problem but I just thought I would throw this out there as an option. It is probably just soggy soil etc.
    Lenette

  • 18 years ago

    errr the above ^post should read ".....vegetative growth-growing leaves and branches and then......" sorry lol

  • 18 years ago

    I'll try to hold off watering a bit and see what happens.

    Now my largest one has another issue. You know those vigorous shoots that come up from the base? Two of them that were still rather soft and about 18" high, just FLOPPED OVER! And were lying there like cooked spinach on the ground. What up with that?? Any ideas?

  • 18 years ago

    Ooh, sorry Dave I don't know what to tell you. Mine only have done that when its really really hot and I didn't water enough. They stood back up after I soaked them good.

  • 18 years ago

    I had a basal shoot do that on Lovie last year. It drove me crazy. I kept the plant watered & the rest of it looked fine. Just the new growth wilted & not every day. It was pretty sorry looking but it did bounce back when the weather cooled. We haven't had the heat & humidity day & night like last year (50s & 60s at night this year) & it hasn't happened again so I think that must be it. What kind of weather are you getting? I imagine it is a good bit warmer in your zone. If it's really limp, I'd try propping it up by tying it to a stake.

    Linda

  • 18 years ago

    Dave I'm with Linda. Mine are beginning to get lots of yellowing foliage, even some of the newer growth but it's recent. I think it has more to do with the change in season, especially the shorter hours of daylight.
    Karyn

  • 18 years ago

    Linda, OK. I do keep it well watered. (too much?). I've never seen those basal shoots just flop over. I hope it's not something more serious. I went ahead and cut them off. The rest of the plant looks OK and seems to be putting out growth and tiny buds.

    This is the plant with the weepy basal shoots.

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  • 18 years ago

    Looks great Dave. Nice and healthy looking.