I grow it and really like it. It is a type 3 pruning group, so hard prune as it blooms on new wood. It has been a very heavy bloomer for me. No disease problems and it hasn't gotten too large for my small garden. The flowers have a heavy crepe like texture and are very beautifull. I am sure you will love it as your plant matures. It's a keeper.

I had to go look that one up Harry. Very pretty! I'm glad you were able to identify it.

Carol

Would you have by chance saved any seed from this clematis? I would love to trade with some of mine.
It is not a clematis that has been offered in Ontario. Naturally I want to be the first!!!
Dana

Dana, growing from seed will not get you a true Marmori. It is a hybrid and will not come true from seed. If you want a true Marmori, you will either have to purchase one or grow it from a cutting from a Marmori plant. Any plant grown from a seed of a hybrid clematis should be called a seedling of the parent hybrid plant such as a "seedling of Marmori" since it would never be considered the cultivar 'Marmori'.

The tag indicates it was purchased from Lowes.

Flowerfan, how big did the blooms get on the mature plant? Mine were only about 2-3" across.

I like this one, as it is close to what I consider a true, clear pink (along with Hagley Hybrid and Pink Fantasy). The downside of this one is that it fades quickly in full sun. The ideal position might be sun all morning, then filtered light after that.

I've grown it for about 4 years, and it blooms well in its first flush, then gives a nice second bloom later in the season.

Hi Harry, the flowers are larger than 2-3 inches. Mine were about 5-6 inches across. Maybe the flowers were small because it is a young plant. Here is a photo of mine from last summer. I had mine in an east exposure and didn't notice the flowers fading. Karen

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Nice picture Karen. I can only hope to achieve what you have. Let's hope year 3 is the charm. My plant is also in an eastern exposure. I think the tag recommends part shade.

The difference in Mike's and Karen's experience with this clematis' fading once again points out the differences one can experience with clematis in different regions of the country. Karen lives in the PNW which more closely mimics the conditions of England. The rest of the country has conditions which are dissimlar to England. I have had the same experience with Mike with most of the lighter colored clematis--that is that they can fade rather significantly. Hagley Hybrid in my garden gets only morning sun and still fades badly within two days after the bloom opening.

Mine is also from Lowe's, purchased and planted October of '06. It had remarkable blooms the following spring and late summer.

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Miguel,

Based upon your zone being that much warmer than mine, I am wondering how much sun I can get away with -I have Hagley Hybrid and Alabast in pots sunken in the back garden. I understand both of them will fade with too much sun.

My zone is suppposed to be 5b, but I seem to be reading more and more that I am zone 6 with Global Warming.

I have to believe being in a northern zone, that HH and Al will be able to stand more direct sun in my zone.

Your thoughts?

Carolyn

Carolyn, your USDA hardiness gardening zone has nothing to do with the intensity of the sun that you get and that is what tends to fade out any flowers. The USDA hardiness zones essentially only tell you the average highs and lows that are common in any given zone.

Where specifically are you located? Are you further north than Mike is in Chicago or at about the same latitude? Generally speaking, the further north you go, the less intense the sun due to the angle of the sun's rays as they hit the Earth. Even so, Mike in Chicago is much further north than I am, and he still has issues with the sun fading his HH. The best judge of whether these clematis will fade and how much they will fade is whether other pale colored flowers of other plant types fade out in your zone.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words, here is a picture of blooms of Ramona in my garden. The darker flower is one that opened the day that I took the picture. The other flowers had been open for two days and you can see how the sun has bleached them out. Sorry about having to link you to the picture, but the direct image link is not working for me to post it directly in the post.

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Miguel,

I checked and Chicago's latitude is slightly different than the latitude here in Northeastern PA - which means that I will have problems with fading too.

I cannot get over the difference in the flowers of Ramona in your picture - I am rethinking where I am going to plant HH and Alabast. I am also checking to see what other clems I have to plant this spring that will fade. Good to know this stuff before actually planting.

Thanks so much.
Carolyn

You are welcome Carolyn. As I said, the other pale colored flowers in your garden and their fading or not will give you a clue as to how likely clematis will fade in your garden!

After posting yesterday, I also thought of another variable which will exacerbate the fading--altitude. The higher in altitude you are the thinner the atmosphere is and therefore the more intense the UV radiation will be. Talk to or look at skiers and you will see that it can be cold and you can still end up with a sunburn after a day of skiing--even if it is cloudy. It's like getting a sunburn on a cloudy day at the beach!!

Miguel,

I would love to be getting a sunburn at a cloudy beach right about now! LOL! It will be awhile.

You are absolutely correct about altitudes. We are in a valley and the intensity of the sun, the wind, the weather and temps. can all be quite different on the tops of the hills than in the valley on the same given day.

Thanks again,
Carolyn

Marmori is a Kivistik clematis bred in Estonia. The intent "was to create cultivars with a compact growth habit and yearly numerous rich blossoms." I have several of their cultivars and love them. I find that they are very heavy bloomers and very hardy in my zone 4/5 garden. Don't let the fact that they are supposed to be "compact" fool you. Of the ones I have, they really fill out and are loaded with blooms. Mine also have a second fairly heavy bloom as well with an occasional bloom in between. They really come into their own their 3rd year.

Below is a link to a sight that lists many of their cultivars. I had a local garden center who carried them, however they lost their supplier and the last 2 years I have not added any. There are still several I want to find.
Both pictures below of are Marmori (I have 2 planted in different places in the garden.)
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If you do a search on "Kivistik" you should be able to find a lot of information.
Hope this helps.
Marylu

Here is a link that might be useful: Kivistik Clematis

Here is a picture of 2 other Kivistiks in my garden. The blue one is Silmakivi but right now I can't remember the name of the purple one. Sorry.
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As I said in my previous post, I just love these! :-)
Marylu

Hagley Hybrid fades badly here for me in the Pacific Northwest. I moved it to partial shade last fall and hope it won't fade so much. Pink Fantasy hasn't bloomed enough for me to tell if it fades. I don't have Marmori. Ramona fades a bit but not as bad as I've seen photos of.

Love those photos Marylu!