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Meski orange, the Acidless orange

15 years ago

I have been searching for this variety in the US with no luck. It's a delicious aromatic sweet orange with very low acid, and considered acidless.

The only reference I found was that it's a sport of Shamouti orange of Israel/Palestine. Here's what it says.

"existence of four varieties in Lebanon, the names of which clearly suggest the likelihood of Shamouti origin. They are Shamouti or Iaffaoui Beledi, a seedy Shamouti; Shamouti or Iaffaoui Maouardi, a seedless blood Shamouti; Maouardi Beledi, a seedy, blood Shamouti; and Shamouti or Iaffaoui Moghrabi or Meski, an acidless, seedy Shamouti."

Any one know if this is available anywhere in the US?

Bass

Comments (12)

  • 15 years ago

    Bass,
    You might want to check with your local rare fruit grower's association or society if you have one in PA. Or, try contacting the California Rare Fruit Growers, http://www.crfg.org/, or N. American Fruit Explorers, http://www.nafex.org/, to see if they know of a source that can ship to PA.

    Patty S.

  • 15 years ago

    Meski is the Arabic name - also known as Douce (French), Dolce (Italian), Sucrena (Spanish) and Lima (Portuguese).
    The UCR Riverside Citrus Variety Collection lists two varieties that are commercially available in California.
    This means they can be propagated from UCR budwood, but doesn't mean you will actually find a nursery with any trees currently for sale. However, you are more likely to find them than searching for 'Meski' - and you could buy budwood from UCR to propagate your own trees!

    Here is a link that might be useful: Acidless Oranges at UCR

  • 15 years ago

    Bass, in the US, acidless oranges are in general considered insipid as the tangy sugar+acid flavor combo is considered more appealing to the american tastebuds. So, it is hard to find acidless oranges that are popular in other countries - the only easily available ones are Palestinian sweet lime and the Mexican sweet lime which are considered acidless oranges in Asia.
    I am looking for a commercial source for Vaniglia Sanguigno orange which is supposed to be a superior Acidless Orange. I only have references to where to find them, but they are not easily obtainable.
    Good luck and keep us posted if you find a Meski.

  • 15 years ago

    ashleysf,

    Edible Landscaping has a Vaniglio Sanguigno but I don't know whether you can have it sent to California.

    Cath

  • 15 years ago

    cath, thanks for the tip. I checked it out and they are currently out of stock of Vaniglia Sanguigno at Edible Landscaping but hope to offer some very soon. I will keep watching them for availability.

  • 15 years ago

    Vaniglia Sanguigno orange This is the worst tasting "orange" I've ever tasted. It is insipid to say the least. I topworked it to a blood orange that tastes good.

    Here is a link that might be useful: mrtexas

  • 15 years ago

    ashleysf,

    Glad I could help.

    Cath

  • 15 years ago

    Edible Landscaping won't ship citrus to California

  • 15 years ago

    There is a variety of acidless orange called Vaniglia which in some stages may have a faint vanilla flavor. It is grown in the Texas Rio Grande Valley. It is supposed to be a blood variety that does not turn red in Texas. (Not at all different from some other blood oranges here).

    Julian Sauls Ph.D., and professor of horticulture, has written of the Jaffa, Joppa, Shamouti group in Texas and I do not remember him mention Vaniglia as originating from the group. He does mention the Jaffa red tinged orange (which I have).

  • 15 years ago

    I was looking for a blood orange and just purchased a vaniglia sanguigno from Bushnell's Nursery in Granite Bay, CA. I have not planted it yet, but was concerned when I read Mr. Texas' comment that it is the worst tasting orange. Now I am wondering if I should return it instead of planting it. Has anyone tasted this orange? What do you think?

  • 15 years ago

    as I said before, in America, people generally cannot accept "acidless" oranges (they call them "insipid"). If you have juiced or eaten acidless oranges before and if you liked them, these are good (I grew up abroad and am very used to Sweet Lime oranges and their juices and other acidless orange varieties). I am currently growing Palestine Sweet Lime on which a lot of people pile abuse calling it "insipid" amongst other things.
    I am on another citrus forum where some people rave about the "vanilla" flavor of the Vaniglia. A Vaniglia is very different in taste from a Blood orange - do not confuse them with each other. So, if you are not sure, please do not plant the tree!

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