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Clematis integrefolia where to put it??

19 years ago

Any suggestions or success stories?

I have about 12 mature plants of a blue clematis integrefolia grown from seed. At the moment they are in my holding/growing beds as I am at a loss for how to show them off in the garden. At this point I am ready to pot them up & add them to my plant sale for lack of ideas ....

Help!

A.

Comments (9)

  • 19 years ago

    By all means don't get rid of them if you have grown them from seed. I would use it as a border edging plant. They also do great growing through other plants.

  • 19 years ago

    Excuse the pun but,
    I think that C. integrefolia would be a 'flop' as an edging plant. Mine seem to grow nice and upright until they come into bloom & then the plant 'flops'. I may try one in my gravel bed - at least then I will be able to see it when it blooms.

    any other suggestions welcome. For now, I think the remainder will be destined for the sale. (along with ump-teen other clematis grown from seed)
    A.

  • 19 years ago

    Too funny A. but I pick the blooms on quite a few of my plants as I love it. Yeah it does flop a bit but I have a very relaxed sort of garden and like that floppiness. It softens the borders quite a bit.

    On another note, if you grew them from seed, you should at least wait and see what they look like when they flower. You could have a great new hybrid that you will miss if you sell them! Too bad I don't live closer or I would come and buy them all from you as I love the integrifolia family of plants!

  • 19 years ago

    I like floppy plants on the edge of the border too. I have my integrifolia at the base of a Midnight Blue shrub rose.

    I have Juuli, Pangbourne Pink, Petite Faucon, Durandii, Arabella and Inspriration all at random between shrubs in the borders. Integrifolia is the only one that is on the edge though.

  • 19 years ago

    "all at random between shrubs in the borders"
    Phew! the thought of digging those holes is giving me shivers. I have one Inspiration and one General Sikorski left to plant, luckily I dealt with five others in the fall.

    For me it is not only the plant's habit but also its color which poses problems, for example I cannot match General Sikorski to any other colors I have in the garden and it's the third spring I will be wondering where to put it so that it is not visible together with my other plants. I think your situation might be opposite, though - how to make the plant visible?

    Did you see the photos of integrifolias in the garden on the page linked below? (tab: Vines in garden, from articles select: Clematis integrifolia group) I think the integrifolias there look realy nice growing through shrubs and perennials, pinks and blues combined. I think blue is best appreciated from up close, against a contrasting background and next to a contrasting color (I have a Pamela Jackman in bloom right now and if you do not pay attention, you just don't notice the plant is actually in flower from a couple of yards away). Regarding the floppiness, wouldn't an appropriate shrub/large perennial support help?

    Here is a link that might be useful: clematis nursery page

  • 19 years ago

    I have read that article and seen those photos. That is my favorite Clematis site.

    I did color match when I planted. Petite Faucon's dark purple flowers show up nicely against Caryopteris Worchester Gold's yellow foliage and pale blue flowers for example.

    I don't go to much trouble when digging holes. I didn't plant them all at once either. I don't have space in my borders to dig big holes for small plants anyway. I am a crammer.

    Yes, the shrubs hold them up somewhat. They wind around and the blooms do show even if the vines don't show much.

  • 19 years ago

    Anna Beth THANK YOU for the link to that website. I have 'been there' before but, never clicked on the 'Vines in the Garden' tab. The pictures gave me lots of ideas so, I may just keep at least half a dozen of the plants. Now, I wish I had some of the other colours. I do have 'Durandii' and had never realized that it was a cross between integrefolia & lanuginosa! And, I do grow it twining through a short,yellow leaved euphorbia.

    Nckvilledudes, my C. integrefolias are not seedlings & I have seen them bloom - for several years now. They are all a very nice blue. I must watch for seedlings in the area tho. They have been growing near a C. pitcheri and a C. orientalis (?) - who knows, maybe I'll get a chance cross!

    I just did a recount - I have 16 C. recta planted in my holding beds AND I seem to have 70 other miscellaneous clematis (mostly C. alpina) sitting in 4" pots in my cold frame. AND they have been there for 2 summers! I am definitely in Clematis overload :o(

    A.

  • 19 years ago

    Wow A., you are in clematis overload. Glad to hear that you have seen the integrifolias in bloom. I would hate to see you give away a new and unseen hybrid that could knock the socks off of the clematis world.

    If you are so good at raising clematis from seed, perhaps you should start making planned crosses with some of your other clematis instead of waiting for chance crosses. Again, you could come up with something really unique!

  • 19 years ago

    I have had the same problem with integrifolias in my garden soil. It's too rich for them, and they flop. I have seen full size specimens in leaner, more clay-ish soil stand fully upright in bloom.

    I've taken to let them weave through shrubs, though I like the effect the vining clematis have on shrubs much more than their stiff-limbed cousins. Still, I've successfully paired them with viburnums, roses, hydrangeas and a few other small shrubs.

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