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Clematis leaves very pale

18 years ago

This spring I bought several clematis from Jerome at Koi Garden. They were all great little plants from the very beginning and I kept them in pots until about three weeks ago.

I planted one in a new bed out front. Although it is still growing the leaves have turned a very pale green color. It looks kind of sickly. So I'm assuming I'm missing something in my soil. I don't believe I am overwatering and they leaves are not yellow but like I said a really pale green.

Suggested amendments? My first thought was a nitrogen deficiency so on Sunday I gave it a good splash of diluted alfalfa tea. So far the plant looks the same but it has only been a few days. Anything else I can try that might be helpful?

Thank you.

Kate

Comments (18)

  • 18 years ago

    1 tbsp. epsom salts in a gallon of water. Repeat weekly as needed. This is a good general additive that will not harm your plant and more than likely green it up.

    Long term, take a soil sample from the area and find out what your soil is deficient in and then you can amend it appropriately long term.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks Nckville:

    So Epsom Salts and water. I can do that. Thoughts on how much of that I should give the clematis? I don't want to overdo it. I do have several other clematis planted that I could share the gallon with but they all seem fine.

    Thank you.

    Kate

  • 18 years ago

    Katefisher, doubt you can overdo it. In my garden, I add the whole gallon of mixture to a single plant. Of course, we are hotter than hades and the plants can use all the water they can get. No need to add it to plants that are doing well on their own.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks Nckville:

    I mixed the epsom salt concoction this morning and since I had just watered I only poured about 1/3 of the gallon on one plant and about the same amount on another that was a little paler than I would prefer.

    I'll let you know if I see an improvement.

    Kate

  • 18 years ago

    Miguel,

    About how often do you add the epsom salts? I've got some plants that aren't dark green, and I would like to try it.

    Robert

  • 18 years ago

    I'm Not Miguel...but Robert I add once a week until they green up...they start greening up pretty fast...Jeanne

  • 18 years ago

    I totally agree with Jeanne once again Robert. Just realize that not all clematis leaves are the same intensity of green and addition of epsom salts aren't going to cure an issue that doesn't exist! LOL

  • 18 years ago

    I'm going to try the epsom salts on some of my roses that are not green enough either...I certainly understand that some of them will be darker than others by nature.

    Miguel (I think) I had asked about why you use epsom salts on brugmansia...but, I lost that post... is it to get the brugmansias to darken up or does it help them to bloom. My brugmansias bloom so late in the season, and I wonder if I can hurry them along..I've moved one to the hottest area in my yard..it bakes.

    Robert

  • 18 years ago

    Do you apply the epsom salts to the foliage or around the base of the plant? I've done this treatment to my green peppers in the past but haven't tried it on anything else.
    Thanks!

  • 18 years ago

    GardenGirl:

    I believe you apply it at the base like a drench. The idea being to provide a needed nutrient to the roots.

    Thank you everyone for your help and responses.

    Kate

  • 18 years ago

    Miguel..you little naughty boy you..LOL..I didn't know you also grew and loved Brugs!!..
    Robert....My brugs are about 2-3 years old and are grown directly into my gardens ..I have 4...I feed them rose fertilizer as well and when yellowing I toss out Epsom Salts and water in really well..Mine are in full sun and remember..they love to be watered..the trunks of some of mine are about 6inches in diameter at least..here are two of mine
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  • 18 years ago

    Oh my Jeanne, your brugs are gorgeous! I so wish I could grow them up here in MA, I am so envious.

    Linda

  • 18 years ago

    Miguel said and I quote "Long term, take a soil sample from the area and find out what your soil is deficient in and then you can amend it appropriately long term" Now that's some good advice Miguel. I'm glad to see you are finally coming around to my way of thinking. Good Job Amigo!!

  • 18 years ago

    Gianty I have never had an issue with taking soil samples and finding out what is deficient in the soil. I also don't have a problem using something like epsom salts in the interim until the report comes back since doing so will not harm the plant and you might just cure the problem before the soil test results come back in. You might also save the plant from croaking on you until the soil tests come back.

    Jeanne, I have been into and out of brugs for quite a few years here. I started out having them planted in the ground and found that for the most part they came back the following year but that they were so much slower getting started that I decided to get rid of all of them in the ground and just grow one or two in pots. Each fall I would drag the pots back into the garage and overwinter the two there but that just got too troublesome. One winter after having overwintered them in the ground, I decided the heck with them and tossed them. Later last summer, I went back out and purchased one Dr. Seuss and put him in the ground and he is back up. Once again, I think growing them in pots gets them going faster since the soil in the pots warms up much quicker than the ground, but I have enough stuff in pots to water.

    Here is a picture of one of mine in the garage in the middle of the winter. I would typically hack them back severely but they always started growing again and it was not unusual to have blooms in the winter if the weather was not too severe.

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  • 18 years ago

    How wonderful Miguel...I know what you mean..if they get a horrible winter ..they die back to the soil line and must re-emerge and that takes a long time...I do as you say but with My Plumerias...Except they are planted directly into my gardens and dug up before it gets too cold and I wrap towels around the roots and stick into my garage for the winter..they go dormant and don't want any water...Dr. Seuss is wonderful..One of mine is a seedling that has the Dr. in him...Jeanne

  • 18 years ago

    Is it ok to use the epsom salts with water for plants in pots?
    Would it have to be a weaker solution?

  • 18 years ago

    Well, ya'll are right on the money... I gave my "sickly" yellow clematis some epsom salt solution according to your specs, and it greened up! I'm treating all my chloritic looking plants now...

    Robert

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