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evergreen clematis help

21 years ago

Hello fellow gardeners,

I have a fairly large evergreen clematis not looking so hot. It is about 15-20 feet long growing alongside a south facing fence. The roots are shaded. It gets about 6 hours of sun per day. The majority of it is supported by a trellis. It is about 15 years old. The last couple of years it has been getting browner and browner. It still blooms incredibly full in the spring, and their seems to be new growth every year. But most of the vine is brown, the only green is the new growth that is laying on top of all the rest. A couple of summers ago I "thinned" it out by pruning and removing most of the brown leaves/stems. That seemed to help. But now, it seems to have more parts dying. It is a huge vine and an awesome task to "thin" out.

Does anyone have any other suggestions??? Thanks in advance!

Comments (6)

  • 21 years ago

    It's probably out of nutrients and needs a good heavy pruning in early spring every year. I don't know if you have a heavy prune type-group 3 clematis (since no name), but I would treat it as such and see if it blooms next year for you. If blooms are sparce and late, then it's likely a group 2, light or no prune type, thus you only need to remove dead wood after leaf out is complete. Proper pruning and fertilizing are the 2 most important steps for raising very happy clematis.
    Fertilize in early spring every year with a good rose food and a few shovelfuls of manure.
    There are also the group 1 prune types which bloom in early spring, but I am assuming you don't have this type. They're another story...without pictures it's almost impossible to know, but,... I'm banking on yours being a common group 2 or 3 type.
    Suzy

  • 21 years ago

    Please excuse the above message as it was intended for a different thread. All of my posts have had major 'glitches' and bugs tonight. This post of mine was typed onto a different thread and should not have ended up here.
    Thanks,
    Suzy

  • 21 years ago

    Like all evergreen plants, old leaves brown and die off on C. armandii. Typically, a healthy plant will just produce new growth that obscures older foliage so it is not so obvious. This can be a very long-lived clematis, so I am not sure why yours is acting so poorly. FWIW, it CAN be cut back quite hard, although doing so now will reduce (if not eliminate) spring flowering - sometimes that is not a bad method to rejuvenate an overgrown armandii. Mulch this fall with a good quality compost and pay attention to late season watering in our typically dry September and October. Give it some rose fertilizer in early spring when you see new growth forming.

    Good luck!

  • 21 years ago

    I have one 20 feet up my cherry tree so the foliage is not visable in the summer. Another one is covering a arbor of about 10x15 feet. It gets 2 feet thick in about 5 years and I cut it back to where it starts across the arbor. If done right after flowering I do not lose next years bloom. Al

  • 21 years ago

    HI, I'm new. I'm also new at planting. Just 3 years ago my husband and I moved, and I have my first garden. I want to tell you that this site saved my clematis. If it was not for research, I would have just pulled it out. One day soon I'll upload an image of my gorgeous Armandi. Anyway, I planted it in September of 2003. It bloomed a little in May 2004 and then this year. The blooms were all over my fence. Absolutely gorgeous! Then in June the leaves started to turn yellow at the tips. Then brown. Then the whole plant started dying. I was frantic. The woman at the nursery was no help. So I followed the instructions to cut it back. MY CLEMATIS IS REVIVED!! I cut it back up to 1 foot from the ground. Around July 1st I saw the little sprout, and now it 5 feet high! I'm so excited. I hope you can save yours to. I'll probably post this on another thread.

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks for all this valuable information about C. armandii. They are very hardy plants -- I cut an old one I inherited right back to the roots and it grew back stronger than ever.
    My question now is: while my armandii is blooming furiously, it is also sending out new shoots. Can these new shoots be trimmed back? Or should they be left to flower next year?

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