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how cold is too cold?

16 years ago

At what temp will the limbs be damaged? What temp for The roots? I lost the leaves on one, maybe both after tonight. I have them all bundled up with burlap, blankets & christmas lights.

But if they lose their leaves, am I wasting my time trying to protect them? I thought I was going to beat mother nature & keep the leaves over winter, I thought wrong. Its now 25 outside & 36 in the brug bundle.

so many lost buds :-(

tim

Comments (17)

  • 16 years ago

    Wow, I don't know Tim...My greenhouse got down to 26' when we lost power for about 1/2 hr about an hour ago...It got down to 8' outside..But hey, it's warmed to a whole 9' now outside.

    I hope all of your brugs are ok for you.

    knotz

  • 16 years ago

    Tim the leaves will grow again!! :-) Usually brugs are not suppose to be able to take below freezing. BUT they DO come back from the roots and let me tell you.

    After seeing Kristy's brugs that came back from the ground...I do not care if they die all the way back each year.

    You did all the right things to protect your angel. Besides taking it inside...there is nothing better I think you could have done.

    Besides....your white angel is rooting nicely and anything else you want or need from the ones I got rooting till spring :-)

    crossing my fingers that it will not stay cold to long. For a night or too they say, is not to bad for a brug.

    Lucy

  • 16 years ago

    Hope your plants will be ok.
    Christmas lights- boy if that doesn't keep them warm!
    Ingrid

  • 16 years ago

    yeah Ingrid they do. Unless you switched to LED lights roflmao

    Lucy

  • 16 years ago

    They can handle low temps as long as it's not for an extended period. If it's going to be about or below freezing for a full day you'll have damage to the above ground growth but it won't kill them.

  • 16 years ago

    First cold night, was supposed to be 38 & got to 29 or 30, thats when the leaves got fried on frosty pink. I was only ready for a light frost that night.

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    Now I got them wrapped as much as I can. Its 23 right now & 35 in the brug house.

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    I was hoping to at least save the branches so they dont have to grow from the roots next year.

    This year.... Normal hot weather, couple of tiny blooms. Buds start loading as the weather cools, a few open & over 100 freeze. :-/ Sooo disappointing.

  • 16 years ago

    Its supposed to be 23-26 for 3 or 4 nights, for around 6-9 hrs each night.

    Sounds like I should be able to save the limbs though huh.

    At least Lucy has a back up angel for me :-)

    tim

  • 16 years ago

    I just posted on the other thread about a gardening friend in Sunnyvale experiencing temps in the 20's. Another friend in Vacaville has had several nights with temps in the low 30's as of last week. Maybe they are even lower now? Is that the average for those parts of CA or is it colder then normal? I remember a hard freeze in the San Diego area a few years ago. A bunch of GW people I talk to lost their plants and a number of growers that supplied DH were wiped out.

  • 16 years ago

    We always get down to the low 30s and the brugs are fine with that (well somewhat fine). They lose their leaves at the first sign of frost, and by the end of winter, they lose the very thin branch tips. Whatever is thicker than one inch (in my experience) does just fine. The trunks on mine are between 4 and 5 inches in diameter. I think you should be just fine. Especially if you live in a mild coastal area, as opposed to my inland location where frost is common in the winter.

    Josh

  • 16 years ago

    I believe your brugs will be fine come spring. Here is my Charles G after last night's freeze{{gwi:585573}} It was 29º here last night. I only cover the roots and they always come back in the spring although Frosty Pink is very slow to return, one year not until July! So never give up on them. This is Charles G and he is as tough as nails.

  • 16 years ago

    You should be fine! They will leaf out in no time..

    Kylie

  • 16 years ago

    karyn1, low 20's are not normal. Our normal low for today is 38. Upper 20's & lower 30's are common a week or 2 every year.

    Josh, I am just north of sac, in Yuba City, the Sacramento valley. We get frost a lot, but low 20's isn't very common.

    Iris, your charles G still looks good after 29, better than mine anyway. Nice blooms :-). My charles is holding up FAR better then frosty pink.

    Kylie, I HOPE your right!
    tim

    Here is a link that might be useful: our average temps

  • 16 years ago

    Tim,

    Our climate is probably very similar. I am in Chowchilla (20 miles north of Fresno) in sunset one 9.

  • 16 years ago

    The weather might be unusual cruel for CA folks right now...but I have noticed that in CA too there are a lot of Brug lovers etc who found there way to the forum :-)))

    Tim and all, how did it go last night?

    Lucy

  • 16 years ago

    Chowchilla should be very similar, almost exact to our weather.

    It was about the same temp as yesterday, 22-23. Tonight is supposed to be 3 or 4 deg warmer, then hopefully no more 20,s.

    tim

  • 16 years ago

    I am really surprised that we didn't get too cold. We got 30F and 27F. Tonight we're forecased for 30F again and then we go well above that to our normal temperatures again. I haven't been able to asses any damage, but I'm sure the brugs are wilted. They've gone through this before so I'm sure they'll pull through.

    Josh

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    You folks kinda "frost me" with a bit of jealously ... because I'm just over the climate cliff, with a solid week of 22 F already this season. Hopefully it's over for winter. (Worst I've seen in last 15 yr is 17 F.)

    I'm in z8b with cool PNW summers. So I'm currently forgetting anything outdoors with limbs and am testing 1' plant base "stubs" with cold frame protection this winter. At 22 F outside it did not freeze inside at ground level. Next year plan to also try just dry fallen leaves and top tarp to save stubs. Also testing a whole main limb structure stored in our ~40 F garage along with backup cuttings, which I will soon start.

    Below is 'Frosty Pink' vs 'Little Angel' on the the day before the first hard freeze. It started with a heart breaking "wack em down" step. This was in late Nov with a few prior weeks of below 45 F night temps. BTW the 'Frosty Pink' cutting had finally got big enough above the Y to have its 2nd flower flush. 'Little Angel' in contrast had been blooming since mid summer and still was pumping out, now less full, flowers on the talker stem, with head more exposed to cold breezes. Compare with lower flowers on the backup plant. Note plants more green during the summer. They are cold stressed here (click photo, they're not quite that stressed).

    BTW this location is my Wife's favorite late summer "hammock spot" l, with these two Brugs at the footend.

    One poor 4.5' 'Little Angel' tub test is also currently in the garage, in the dark, and not being watered. Essentially leafless now, but with healthy fat stems ... it's pumped out a few half sized flowers in the dark!

    Past year photos. Another LA cutting from this same plant in a tub planter, in August.

    BTW this LA only received 3-4 direct summer sun midday in this location. This is a cool forested yard in Woodinville, WA.

    A lawn chair here put next to this tubbed plant placed that top leaf leaf node at hair level ... yep, my evening "Incense(d)" area.

    LA grows fast and has a flower or bud at every node, with staged nodes always visible for the next 2 to 4 flush cycles. She also throws a few flowers between flushes. So once it starts LA is always in bloom for us. "Floral attack*" gets exciting from mid summer onwards ... with 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64 ... but I've not yet made it further outdoors before frost, when starting from a same year cutting.

    LA is a VERY nice fragrance plant so you need to strategically place that lawn chair to get just the right exposure. Truly mind boggling when you want it! My style. (Should it be legal sitting that close without a license?)

    I saved a few nice cuttings for trades.

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