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Almost a total loss

17 years ago

I just checked the greenhouse and almost started to cry. It's practically a total loss, everything has severe cold damage. The temporary heater just wasn't strong enough. I was hoping that when I saw the front thermometer registering 21 that it wasn't correct because that one is on the glass. I couldn't see the other thermometer which is in the middle but I guess 21 was accurate or at least close to it. This sucks : ( The temps have just been so unseasonably cold. I wasn't in a rush for a new heater because I figured I was safe at least until mid Jan. Guess not.

Comments (36)

  • 17 years ago

    OH NO Karyn....That's just TERRIBLE!!!!!...I would have been sick too :(

    We're getting more snow right now...Worst its been here since the late 70's...Now we have abt 12".

    Here's hoping some of your plants pulled through...Please Please :(

    knotz

  • 17 years ago

    Oh my god Karyn I'm so sorry. If I have cuttings of anything you lost let me know. They have all grown enough I can pass them back to you. Its been extremely cold here too already this year.

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn I am here for you too. I am so sorry....Sending you warm thoughts and hugs.....I will have lots of extras too when it warms up.....Barb

  • 17 years ago

    I don't kow which is worse being snowed in or the plants? At least I'm safe now if we get snowed in. Made sure DH finally took care of that! LOL On a brighter side at least my orchid greenhouse is fine. I put another little ceramic heater in the greenhouse of death to try and salvage what little is left. I took somne things in the house to see if they'll come back from the roots. My beautiful variegated Chalice vine looks like &%#@. I can't tell if it's just the foliage that's dead or if the stems are shot too. Thanks for the offers. I might be begging plants come spring. lol

  • 17 years ago

    All your friends are here for you! Thank god we put that stupid kerosene heater in. Actually the fiance thought of it. I cant belive the weather across the states. It has been so terrible. I am so happy you could bring some into the house to hopefully recoup. You have a lot of rare stuff that would be so difficult to replace....I will put you in my prayers.....Remember we are here for you! Barb

  • 17 years ago

    I'm sorry your heater went out. If there are any brugs or any of the plants I sent you I can probably replace them.
    Shawn

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn, I'm really sorry to hear about your setback. It sure is being a harsh winter this year. I have my fingers crossed I won't have a power outage that would jeopardize the brugs I have stored in my garage. If you'll check with me in the spring, I'll be happy to see whether any brug cuttings are available on my plants.

    Patrick

  • 17 years ago

    Oh Karyn, that is a heartbreak. Hopefully you will be able to save quite a few of your plants. Look on the positive side, you can go shopping! Kidding aside, if there is anything I have that you lose, PLMK.

  • 17 years ago

    Oh karyn, I'm crying with you! I know just how you feel and you know I'll share. We too had a power problems last week before the biggest storm hit and made a run to Wally's World at 10PM when the two smaller heaters kept tripping the breaker. DH want to get two more small heaters and I screamed. Needless to say I got the bigger one and thanking my lucky stars for it. We got 16" with that storm and another 3" today, yes I'm scooping or sweeping off the walkway. I was able to get the door open yesterday and cried when I saw some of the sangs but what can you do? ((((karyn)))) Mother Nature is in control.

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn
    that is just the worst news, if I have anything you want
    don't hesitate to let me know, you have some of the most
    unusual plants, I hope they bounce back for you after being in the house,
    Elizabeth

  • 17 years ago

    Hey Karyn hang in there! I have one that lives in a pot all the time. The first year I took cuttings and left the pot out, and he died down and looked completely dead but come spring, he woke up and grew like crazy. Same for last year. I don't know what kind it is, but the blooms start off yellowish and go to pink and smell AMAZING!

    I am not familiar enough to know if some varieties are tougher than others, but wanted to share my experience with you. Hopefully in spring your babies will wake up and grow like crazy! If not, it sounds like there are plenty of volunteers ready to help replace them. That is so cool!

    Here are some pics of mine:

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    Happy Holidays to all!

    -Frank

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn, i sure hope your plants hang in there. You might be surprised at the survival skills of some plants. When we had our freeze in 2007, the only plant that i lost was a queen palm, and it went to 18F for a whole week. Many of the plants that looked dead came back from the roots. Feel free to ask me for any plants come spring!

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn...

    I am so sorry this happened to you and your greenhouse!!! I will keep ya'll in my thoughts and prayers...maybe they will surprise you!!! My oldest NOID brug a few years back was dug up from the front of the house and my husband set it on a plastic garbage bag behind the garage...not 'in the garage' that I wanted. Anyway...after spending the entire winter (and it snowed and we had several cold spells...) that spring, it came up like gangbusters from the roots. I had forgotten about it until 'Pedro' brought it to my attention & asked me where I wanted it planted!! It roots were all exposed to very cold snowy weather!!

    I know you are a much more 'experienced' brug gardener than me, but please...don't lose hope!!! Any cuttings you sent me, I would be happy to send them back to you if it would help.

    I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you my friend!!!

    ~MJ

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  • 17 years ago

    Everyone here is so generous. I might be taking you up on the offers in the spring. It's supposed to be in the mid 40's tomorrow so DH and I are going to take everything out of the GH and sort through what's ok and what might be salvageable. I have to order a new heater but I don't want the same brand as the one I had because I've gone through two already. I have to look for another 19,000 or higher BTU GH heater. Anybody have a recommendation? The one I had was a Dayton.

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn, that's awful! I'll share what I can in the spring. I feel bad for you. I only lost some from my porch, not a greenhouse full. It has gotten really, cold really early this year. Hope it means an early spring. It's hard to keep the temps just right. Electric heater = too cold. Kerosene = too hot.

    Linda

  • 17 years ago

    I don't know about the heater. I told John he will have to let me use the shop heater in the greenhouse. I bought a big electric one to use in the garage since I tripped on the old one and broke it. The little one worked much better. It was a vornado and it kept the whole garage warm even the floor. The big one leaves cold spots all over.

  • 17 years ago

    Im so sorry Karyn, I hope they come back for you.
    I`ll be glad to share too.

    Karen

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn, I'm so sorry!Hope they spring back. If I can send you anything,LMK.

    Theresa

  • 17 years ago

    LMK if you need anything I have.

    If I had to heat a greenhouse of any size I would put a hot tub in it. I love things with more than one use.

    A friend uses these harbor freight heaters but then it does not get that cold here.

    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45602

    Jim

  • 17 years ago

    The hot tub in the greenhouse would be nice but ours is built into the deck and I haven't used it in years. One of my friends has a hot tub in her greenhouse and it looks great but she still needs a heater for the plants. It gets pretty da*n cold here. I'll check out Harbor Freight. They usually have some good prices.

  • 17 years ago

    Don't be too hasty about throwing things out. One year I had a greenhouse disaster and was amazed what all did come back from the roots. My Chalice vine has done so TWICE, but it's not variegated.

    Come spring, let me know what you've lost and I'll see what I can send you!

  • 17 years ago

    Oh Karyn! I am so sorry!

    As everyone else has offered, I have some of your originals also!

    come spring, maybe others have some of your more exotics, but all of us here can rebuild your collection. We all have whatever you need.

    I am SO sorry.

    I am using a gas heater, but I think mine is for smaller areas. When it got down to 3 degrees, -28 windchill here a couple days ago, I couldn't get the room over 70.

    I can't remember, isn't yours glass though? I can check what my little heater is. It wasn't expensive at all.

    But you may need something much stronger. I have full walls and insulation.

    But hopefully, things will only be in "shock" and will recover.

    All of us here can replace your brug collection though.

  • 17 years ago

    So sorry, Karyn...WE really do know how you feel about
    your babies. Everything will be alright, though. My list
    is limited, however, you may have a share of whatever????
    Think Spring!!
    Margaret

  • 17 years ago

    Sorry!! That really sucks!!! You know you are welcome to anything I have....
    Kylie

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn, I am so sorry. I can help you replace some things when it gets warm again. I hate to lose plants like that and I know you do too. Hopefully you won't get more snow.
    Linda

  • 17 years ago

    So sorry to read of your misfortune. I have a bunch of cuttings flourishing under lights in the basement. Take a look at my trade list and let me know if there is anything there you lost or just didn't have. I'll be happy to put your name on them and mail in the spring.
    We have had 25 inches so far which is well over half of our 'usual' total.

  • 17 years ago

    Oh Karyn I hate to hear that!!!! I will be optimistic that things will come back for you!!!

    Mary

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn I really hated to read this thread for I knew that your luck has not returned to you yet. Thank God everyone can help with getting you most back. It is just heart breaking when you loose so much at once.
    I pray and hope that 2009 is going to be a much much better year for you my friend.

    Lucy

  • 17 years ago

    You should definitely share a list of what was lost, Karyn. With all the cuttings I have received, I may even be able to help out!

    Bob

  • 17 years ago

    25 inches of SNOW???? OMG .. I'll keep my 105 and 107*s any day!!! LOL

  • 17 years ago

    Me too Kylie. Can't live like a hermit or an eskimo. I would freeze solid up there.

  • 17 years ago

    Forget the snow once it gets below 50 I hibernate. I'm with you Kylie and would rather have suffocating heat year round! lol Every year I say we're going to move south but then we come up with excuses for not moving. I really do love this area except for the cold and the traffic.

    We went through the greenhouse and it was so sad. Anything that has a remote chance of recovery got cut back and put on a shelf but I still had loads of plants to trash. The one good thing is that I was able to clear out so much that there's now enough room in that GH for all my orchids. We're going to move everything from the small orchid house into the GH of death this afternoon. It will save on electricity. Gotta look at the bright side, right?

    I'm happy to say that both my Agapetes are fine : ) I'll list the brugs I lost later. Hopefully there will be people with extras of the varieties I lost that will want to trade in the spring. A lot of what was lost were tender tropicals and I'm going to have to think long and hard if I want to replace all of them. I'm going to get a hold of Bob (Zone 9) and ask him to put aside the varieties I do want to replace (that he has) so I can have them shipped in the spring. Thankfully my Culebra and Vulcanicola were inside. I'm still not sure where my Sanguineas were but maybe it's time I gave up on them anyway. After about 10 years of trying to get blooms on that variety and failing it might be futile. Maybe somebody is trying to tell me something. lol

  • 17 years ago

    So sorry to hear about your loss, Carol

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn,
    I have been reading your post and replies but have not replied until now.
    Frist I'm so sorry about your plants. I know I would still be crying. It hurts me now just thinking about yours.
    I have an ele. heater in my GH. I know my winters are not as cold as yours but I was worried about it also.
    I got a small inside outside thermometer and put it inside my GH. It reads the temp. in the GH and inside my house.
    Just an idea.
    Dorothy
    P.S. if you post a list of your loses I would Like to send you a few things in the spring. I know others would love to help also.
    Give use a chance to pay it forward!
    Love to you,
    Dorothy

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn, I wrote in your other post on your GH that I hoped that your plants were resilient and you would be pleasantly surprised. It does not sound like that happened. I am truly sorry and hope you will be able to replace what is lost. I will be watching for your list and hope to be able to help replace something even though I am just starting out.
    Joyce

  • 17 years ago

    Karyn let me know if any of the little cuttings you sent are things you lost. None of them were named so I don't know what they are. If there is anything you can't find let me know and I'll watch for them here for you.