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20 years ago

I always root my cuttings in water in my little greenhouse. I have some Creamsickle cuttings that have been in water for quite some time now...do they take a long time to root? They are showing no signs of rot or mush but I would have thought they would have at least started their little white "nubbies" by now. I have other cuttings that I received after the Creamsickle cuttings which have already rooted and have been potted up. I'm just beginning to wonder if this rooting method will not work for the Creamsickle and should try another way. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated....

Linda

Comments (24)

  • 20 years ago

    Linda, I would re-cut and root this one in dirt with bottom heat if you have it. Some folks use rooting hormones but I do the no fuss method.

  • 20 years ago

    I just wrote a note to "management" and told them about what is known as "milking", a process where you put any plant that secretes a white milky liquid in water to dilute the white milky liquid. The white, milky liquid, will tend to prevent root formation. This could by your problem.
    If you see the least bit of cloudyness to the water in which your cuttings are located, be absolutely sure to change the water as often as necessary so that the cutting will not have to stand in the milky, cloudy liquid.

    Try changing the water and see if that helps.

  • 20 years ago

    Brugs DON'T secerete a 'white milky liquid', so I doubt this is an issue in rooting Creamsickle. However, I've found that Creamsickle will NOT root in water. Move your cuttings into soil, and if possible give them some bottom heat.

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks all for your helpful suggestions. I have taken the cuttings and potted them up and have them sitting on my heat mat with Gro lites above them. I do have to admit tho...the water they were in was changed every other day and I did notice a "cloudiness" to the water. This was the only one that had the "cloudy" water as I have quite a few cuttings in water to root right now.

    Is there a "general rule of thumb" for rooting cuttings or whatever works best? I guess what I'm trying to ask is do certain species root better in water versus in soil with heat? Can you tell I'm new to brugs??? Have gotten the book "Brugmansia and Datura" and still have a lot to learn!

    Linda

  • 20 years ago

    LBoyce a general rule is the more common ones are usually rooted in water. The fuzzy leafed ones are in dirt with the harder to find ones. I have gotten to the point just sticking them in dirt is the best way for them all. But again I can root roses the same way.

  • 20 years ago

    When started in water, at what point do you pot them up?

  • 20 years ago

    rsieminski, as soon as the first nubs appear so that the roots form in the dirt are stronger than the ones that will grow in water.

  • 20 years ago

    I'm begining to wonder if B. sanguinea won't root in water. Several weeks have pasted and no roots have formed. I seem to recall my last attempt was in a starter mix and it was successful.
    My memory gets worse with each passing year.

    Cheers, Barrie.

  • 20 years ago

    Las_Palmas_Norte, sanguinea are best started in dirt and not water. They are hard to root, just keep trying.

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks, just as I suspected. Do you suggest a rooting hormone?

    Cheers, Barrie.

  • 20 years ago

    Las_Palmas_Norte, I'm a no fussin' person and rooting hormone isn't used when I do them at all. It's also about timing and knowing the plants. These love the cooler temps and I will only do cuttings of them while it's cooler.

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks for the info. I'm going to pot up those sanguinea right now.

    Cheers, Barrie.

  • 20 years ago

    karmahappytoes....I'm in Zone 5 (which is pretty cool). Would I have any luck growing a sanguinea in this area? Our Summers do not get that hot as compared to down South.

    Linda

  • 20 years ago

    LBoyce, I have heard of a few folks up your way doing so but I wouldn't recommmend these for anyone that hasn't had a few years growing Brugmansias. They are different and it took me a few years to get the hang of them as they do have special requirements.

  • 20 years ago

    I have had B. Sanguinea root quite easily in water. I accidently knocked a large piece off last summer and so I stuck it in a clear plastic cup with a few inches of water. I was also rooting a CG cutting at the same time and the B. sangs rooted faster. They seem to root equally well in dirt for me too though.
    GL
    ~SJN

  • 20 years ago

    sultry_jasmine_night. was this a green or woody piece and could you tell me about what time of year this took place? LA is pretty hot and humid down there, I would be interested in your information on growing them in a warmer climate.

  • 20 years ago

    LBoyce, I hope you don't mind me borrowing your post to get help on rooting mine. I got 2 cuttings 2-3 months ago. One is Dr. Suess & other is already rooted white ?. I put both in water ...Dr Suess has roots. The white one, I potted up & it took a dive so I put it back in water.
    Both have now lost all leaves. The white even dried up at the tip so I had to cut it off. Are they dying or in a dormancy? I'm afraid to pot them as they might die. I had them in my cool (50-60*) sunroom & now they are in house at 68*. Can I save them? Any advice would sure be nice. Thanks
    Patty

  • 20 years ago

    Patty_in_Wisc, new cuttings and seedlings need light and warmth to grow. I know some folks don't recommend heat mats for their cuttings but I use them. Were these green cuttings or woody ones? Wishing you all the best.

  • 20 years ago

    LBoyce, I hope you don't mind me borrowing your post to get help on rooting mine. I got 2 cuttings 2-3 months ago. One is Dr. Suess & other is already rooted white ?. I put both in water ...Dr Suess has roots. The white one, I potted up & it took a dive so I put it back in water.
    Both have now lost all leaves. The white even dried up at the tip so I had to cut it off. Are they dying or in a dormancy? I'm afraid to pot them as they might die. I had them in my cool (50-60*) sunroom & now they are in house at 68*. Can I save them? Any advice would sure be nice. Thanks
    Patty

  • 20 years ago

    Well, I don't know how that happened LOL...2 posts!
    Karma, they were green cuttings. Is it normal to lose all leaves like this? Should I pot them up or leave them in water? Thanks

  • 20 years ago

    Patty_in_Wisc, if they are stressed yes they can loose their leaves. I'm a strong believer of dirt as soon as the nubs appear and will just pop a cutting directly into dirt. It's about knowing the variety/species and timing.

  • 20 years ago

    Karma,
    It was during the summer and it was green wood. Yes I do know that probably they won't flower here but one can always try. They grow like mad though and don't seem to wilt down as much as some of my others, even in the heat, of course they are well watered. I figure if they ever do bud it will be in late fall/winter.

  • 20 years ago

    sultry_jasmine_night. Sanguinea won't bloom in the heat so fall would be the time to watch them bloom! Oh to have them in the ground year round, lucky you.

  • 20 years ago

    Well, I potted both up in a very asndy soil & over aome heat. Will wait to se what happens & let you know.
    Thanks Karma,
    Patty