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Improved Meyor Lemon Problem

12 years ago

I recently bought Improved Meyor Lemon dwarf tree it's putting out new leaf growth all over but some of the new growth is turning yellow and falling off

anyone know why new growth would turn yellow and fall off??

Comments (33)

  • 12 years ago

    Maybe too hot; maybe needs food. If you can post a photo you will get a better answer; but if it is putting out a lot of new growth, you should be feeding it.

  • 12 years ago

    all the leaves you see is new growth I bought it on discount with no leaves at all

  • 12 years ago

    more pictures

  • 12 years ago

    another

  • 12 years ago

    Looks okay; but I would feed it well with a good citrus fert.

    New growth on Meyers that have sufficient food is normally a reddish-brown color, later turning to a light green, and finally to a darker green.

  • 12 years ago

    the new tiny growth keeps turning yellow and falling off there is gotta be something wrong I don't think its fertilizer because the bigger leaves look fine

  • 12 years ago

    You're potting medium looks very dense and your soil looks very wet. Have you checked the very bottom of your pot to see just how wet the roots are? I"m betting you're seeing the beginnings of some root rot. I would re-pot in a bigger pot, with a better potting medium. If you search our forum for "511 Mix", you will get an optimal potting mix for citrus. Leaving your tree in a dense, poorly draining potting mix will eventually kill your tree.

    Patty S.

  • 12 years ago

    I hate to sound like a broken record, but..."what Patty said!"

  • 12 years ago

    the soil at the top looks dense but its actually very fluffy and dries out fast

    that could be the problem When I bought the plant I put new soil in the bottom of the pot then placed the plant with its soil on the new soil so now the old soil that came with the plant dries out faster then the new soil that's at the bottom

    if I pull the plant out all the new roots will break off How can I replace the soil that originally came with the plant wash it all off with water?? this will affect the new growth

    This post was edited by Kings_Rose on Wed, Oct 15, 14 at 17:26

  • 12 years ago

    Have yoiu checked for thrips or mites....They are best know for attacking new growth right at the base and cause them to fall off and turn yellow...

    If you touch the new growth, does it easily fall off?

    Just another thought)

    Mike

  • 12 years ago

    yes the new growth does fall off very easily if touched and yes I had a lot of thrips on the bigger leaves I squashed them all with my fingers I don't see any on the new growth that's falling off unless they are hiding somewhere on the branches I will take a look

  • 12 years ago

    I think its been these damn thrips all along Wait until I get a hold of an insecticide tomorrow I will set it off on them they have takin down at least a dozen new leaves

    This post was edited by Kings_Rose on Wed, Oct 15, 14 at 21:33

  • 12 years ago

    Yup..For some reason thos edarn bugs are hard to find and usually can be found knocking off very new growth tips, turning them yellow cutting them off at the pass, never allowing them to turn green or develop, or found in your blossoms turning them brown or casuing bud and fruit drop or poor deformed develpoement! I hope I never have these bugs again.

    Get your self a good pesticide and I'll bet you'll go back to getting newly deveopling green young growth again that actually hangs on to the tree)

    Mike,,

  • 12 years ago

    "the new tiny growth keeps turning yellow and falling off there is gotta be something wrong I don't think its fertilizer because the bigger leaves look fine"

    I wanted to correct something here, new leaves typically show their deficiency problems, and old leaves do not. Looking at the old leaves is just telling you what they looked like when they "were born" so to speak.

    Most of the nutrients that show deficiency in leaves do not easily "translocate" from leaf to leaf, so once the leaves get their "look" they don't change showing nutrient deficiency etc... They may brown and die, but the nutrient deficiency is really only shown in new leaves.

    What this means is that you should look to new leaves for deficiency and not at old leaves because the iron/manganese/magnesium won't move from old to new leaf, so you must provide more new micro/macro nutrients.

    And nutrient deficiency absolutely can cause new leaves to wilt/deform/fall off etc... But it sounds like you found some bugs which probably are most of the issue, but just wanted to correct that misunderstanding about old leaves showing the "current status" of the plant; which might lead people to believe they are doing ok.

    The experts can correct me if I'm wrong, but I just hate to let incorrect information sit out on the internet because someone comes by and reads it years later and bad myths fester... so if I'm wrong please correct me, but that's my understanding!

    This post was edited by ocelaris on Fri, Oct 17, 14 at 13:40

  • 12 years ago

    I sprayed the bugs I don't see anymore new leaves still keep dropping

  • 12 years ago

    other mayor lemon

    This post was edited by Kings_Rose on Fri, Oct 17, 14 at 15:12

  • 12 years ago

    Meyer Lemons are suceptible to leaf drop when their conditions change. If you moved it inside then it might be exhibiting that behavior. Also the most important thing is the soil, and it still looks like you have "regular" soil. try repotting to the gritty mix, there are many threads extolling those benefits. Probably not a bug thing if you sprayed, probably a root issue. Also how much sun does it get on that coffee table? Full south facing windows are best if it is indoors.

    If when you put water in, you can't see water run out almost immediately in that pot it's probably too heavy of a soil.

  • 12 years ago

    I just took the pictures on the coffee table they get full sun at south facing windows

    correct me if I'm wrong over watering and under watering both cause yellow leaves and leaf drop right?

    Also are florescent grow bulbs any good for these plants? just for cloudy days

  • 12 years ago

    has anyone used this fertilizer before?

    http://www.amazon.ca/Citrus-Feed-Fertilizer-Fertiliser-Professional/dp/B00I11Y1BO/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1413588740&sr=8-10&keywords=fertilizer

    I use this fertilizer for all my plants all purpose 20-20-20

    http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/plant-prod-all-purpose-fertilizer-500g/6000057190424

    I think the citrus might need its own fertilizer

  • 12 years ago

    Neither of those specify that they provide the micronutrients, and you should strive for the 3-1-2 ratio for NPK. I would suggest something with at least the micronutrients.

  • 12 years ago

    As mentioned before, Meyers don't like having their light conditions rapidly adjusted. You could augment with artificial lights, but usually, CFL's aren't strong enough to make a huge difference (but anything helps). I personally use metal halide lamps (but that's extreme).

    Regarding fertilizer, people on this forum are adamant that Foliage Pro 9-3-6 works best. After using it, I heartily concur--the results are phenomenal. It's pricy, but in terms of plant health, it's liquid gold.

    And lastly, especially with these recent leaf drop and lower light, your plant will need/use a lot less water. Make sure to cut back on your watering accordingly! Now isn't the best time to re-pot into 5-1-1 or 1-1-1 gritty mix, so just stick with what you have now and water less frequently.

    Good luck!

    -Tom

    Here is a link that might be useful: If you're curious about Foliage Pro, here's a small size to try.

  • 12 years ago

    Thanks I just ordered Dyna-Gro DYFOL008 Foliage Pro, 8-Ounce

    This post was edited by Kings_Rose on Fri, Oct 17, 14 at 20:50

  • 12 years ago

    I flipped it upside down and took some pictures of the roots

    your thoughts?

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    The soil looks wet in the pictures but its actually not its more towards dry side kind of moist

    This post was edited by Kings_Rose on Sat, Oct 18, 14 at 12:24

  • 12 years ago

    I would re-pot with a larger pot and with 511 or Gritty Mix. Your tree may have some shock, and continue to look poor for a bit, but with better draining soil (dense, compacted soil like you have will either be soggy wet, or bone dry, this is not uncommon), regular fertilizing and adequate light, your Meyer will revive itself.

    Patty S.

  • 12 years ago

    hopefully my mayor lemon looks like the one in the picture in a few yrs

  • 12 years ago

    Lol, I hope not, that's not a particularly healthy looking tree.

    However, that does look like a very healthy girl. ; )

  • 12 years ago

    Those aren't Meyer lemons, but I agree with Barb's assessment!

  • 12 years ago

    I am going to remove this comment and add it to a new post.

    This post was edited by rkslander on Sun, Oct 26, 14 at 23:58

  • 12 years ago

    Kings Rose, your Meyer actually looks very good up top.
    The potting mix appears very compacted, however, and of course I suggest that you re-pot in a more durable, porous mix.

    Josh

  • 12 years ago

    Agreed, it does look good on top the leaves have gotten very big the inner new tiny growth mostly all yellowed and fell off before they could mature into bigger leaves so now it looks kinda like a palm/tropical tree

    I was thinking of re-potting in some cactus palm and citrus miracle grow potting soil but afraid the newly formed roots might get ripped/damaged

    This post was edited by Kings_Rose on Sun, Oct 26, 14 at 19:17

  • 12 years ago

    I repotted both plants in cactus, citrus miracle grow potting soil got rid of about 95% of the old soil

    I will update in a few weeks

  • 12 years ago

    I hope you added some perlite, moss, orchard mix to allow the soil to drain easier. That mix is still very compacted.

  • 12 years ago

    No I did not add anything into the mix I have Ficus plant Golden Pothos and Azalea plant all of them are doing just fine in regular potting mix I went out and bought this special mix for the citrus if its not good enough for it I will throw it out too high maintenance for me

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