Software
Houzz Logo Print
fairysoapgirl

Pod Setting Rate - what do you think???

18 years ago

Hi all,

I have been pollinating like a mad woman this year, and was wondering if I am getting a good "rate of return". :o)

I pollinated 389 times and got 77 pods so far (give or take a few that are still setting). That's real close to 20%. Is that good or bad? I started pollinating at about 8-9am, but have been getting up at about 6:30am these days, as it takes me a while to get my pollination schedule and wires together (not to mention taking pictures). So, now the time is a little more like 7-7:30am. And when it is going to rain, it takes FOREVVVVVVER, because I have to put a little tape rain hat on each pistle... geesh.

A FEW OTHER THINGS

When they say something has "HOT" pollen, does that mean it will fertilize just about anything? Seems like Mildred Mitchell could fertilize a fence post.

Usually, I remove all the pollen (collecting it anyway), so there is no chance of stray pollination. It gets kind of windy, so I didn't want to take any chances.

Those cute little katydids turned into BIG katydids and were starting to eat all my anthers! I mean, it was weird... each katydid had his own plant... never moving to another one, but he would eat ALL the anthers off the flowers. Greedy little hogs. I had to get rid of them (sorry mother nature).

I am REALLY excited about some of the crosses, and hope the pods make it all the way.

Blue Elf x Glenn Fletcher Memorial

Little Blue Belle x Blue Elf

Little Blue Belle x Star Child

Lavender Fantasia x Musical Medley (hard to set for me - lots of trys)

Hi Ho Silver x Musical Medley

Navy Blues x Yankee Doodle Blues

Palace Garden Beauty x Musical Medley

Create Your Dream x Musical Medley

Half Moon Key x Musical Medley

Cranberry Baby x Velvet Eyes (this is a Dip and a Tet - but I covered the stamen... so could this really work out, or will the seeds be sterile?)

Honky Tonk Blues x Yankee Doodle Blues

Thanks for any help!

Comments (6)

  • 18 years ago

    Hello Mad Woman,
    I would say 20% is a little low. I'm at around 50% now and expect to drop to around 30% after it gets really hot. I suspect the cause for your low rate may be that your plants are still fairly new. I have had lots of plants that won't set a pod until they've been established for a couple of years.
    I've never used the term HOT pollen, so I'm not sure. It's ether very fertile or from a flower you accidentally broke off at the Hybridizer's garden and took home with you! ;0)
    I think you're probably right; fertile.
    I have seen very little to even suspect stray pollination, so I don't go to any extra steps to eliminate the possibility. I know some people do remove the sepals and petals and the stamen with them, but that's to keep the pollen away from the bugs and bees that steal it, and make the flower unattractive. It is still easily to pollinate the pistil.
    Looks like some nice crosses you have made. The dip to tet cross will result in a pod, but in time it will dry up and fall off. I sometimes pollinate a tet with a dip to set a pod, getting the tet in the mood, so to speak. Sometime it works and it will start taking tet crosses.
    Good luck, sounds like you are doing very well.
    Ed

  • 18 years ago

    Hi Ed,
    Thanks for the info about new plants. A lot of mine were planted last year, and a few this year.

    There are no Hybridizer's around here, but if there were, I might be tempted by that Hot Pollen... :o) You are too funny.

    Thanks for the well wishes... it is getting hotter here, so the mornings are getting earlier...

    Did you see the pick of GE 6035? :o)

  • 18 years ago

    Fairysoapgirl - Twenty percent does sound a little low, but you have some great crosses that took. So celebrate! The first year I tried to dab pollen, almost everything took. The past two years I've had roughly a 60 percent success rate. So far this year I've had a 0 percent success rate out of 8 tries. We've had wildly fluctuating temperatures over the past month, and my first attempts involved new plants. Some cultivars have very strong pollen that almost always set a pod. Chartered Course pollen is like that for me. Good luck with your pods!

    Debra

  • 18 years ago

    Oh yes... I am celebrating... checking on the pods daily, so I make sure they are not aborting! Although, I think one of the Half Moon Key x Musical Medley aborted... starting to shrivel. :o(

    Thanks for the encouragement!

  • 18 years ago

    Fairysoapgirl - a time saver for the a.m. is to walk around the night before to see what will be open the next day. Write the info down and what pollen you are using.

    The next a.m., let the pollen dry inside or use thawed pollen, and hit the plants as early as possible. Using all the same pollen on the same plant also saves times. Check each successfuly pollinated plant off your list as you dab.

    By having a plan first thing in the morning you have a couple more hours for the pollen to do its job while the temps are still low. Your success rate will go up dramatically. You can pollinate a lot of daylilies in an hour.

    Now you can take pictures in the early morning sun. After pics, take your list and your wires and tag the plants. I've tagged plants even in the evening. The pollen is easily visible on the stamen.

    Brooke

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks Brook,

    I do walk around the night before, hoping that I can tell what will open. Some are real easy (Spacecoast Surprise Purple) and others I can't really tell (usually smaller dips)...

    I have been using the Plantstep flower softwear, and that makes planning a lot easier.

    I try to use the same pollen on all the flowers on one plant - otherwise I would have like all 100 baggies of pollen in my pocket and that would NEVER work.

    So, usually I make the first round with the camera, then back in to enter them into plantstep (takes about 15 minutes, because I have to decide...) then back out with the list, wires and tweezers!

    The BF thinks I'm nuts!