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Pruning advice for small size & fruitfulness

17 years ago

Fig experts, once again I beg for your wise counsel!

Last year, I thought that I should go with mostly main crop figs. So during the winter, I pruned my trees back, mosly taking about half to 3/4 of the prior year's growth. They are pruned to an open-center shape to allow sunshine into the centers.

I want to keep the trees under about 8 feet due to small yard and wanting to stay off ladders. I don't need bushels and bushels, just a few nice bowls of fruit from each tree, each year.

Well, there were late frosts, the first growth was killed by the last frost, they had to grow back again. Since I had removed most of the last year's growth, there were only a couple of breba. I thought that would be OK, because there have been a lot of comments about breba not as good as main crop. But with the late frost, a late Spring, and a cool Summer, I had only a few main crop figs. The tree that had the most was Hardy Chicago, which is only 3 years from cutting and is only about 4 feet tall. Petite negri was covered in fruit, but only a couple ripened before the first frost.

So here's my thought this year: I won't prune back now. Instead, I'll wait until the breba have ripened, then selectively prune back so that I have a mix of young branches.

My varieties are:

Hardy Chicago

found variety, looks like Brunswick, that I call "Vancouver"

Petite negri

Latarrula

a new Desert King that had 3 feet of growth last year, and is only 4 feet tall now.

So, what are your thoughts? This year I want to maximize the brebas, and have a few main crop. That would give me summer-ripened figs and a few in the fall. Summers here in the Pacific Northwest (Southwest Washington) are usually fairly cool.

I do have a question to tag onto this one. Since pinching helps with compact branching and encouraging early fig development of main crop figs, should I cut off the terminal buds of the current branches to encourage brebas? Or is it better to leave them alone?

Thanks as always for sharing your knowledge with this novice.

Comments (15)

  • 17 years ago

    Sounds like we're almost neighbors.
    You should stop by for a cup of coffee and to talk figs.

    http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr8/boizeau/brunswick.jpg

    Here is a link that might be useful:

  • 17 years ago

    For me in zone 5 i pinch off all the breba this assures me of a late summer fall crop to ripen. I prune my branches if tree needs it after tree is spent of figs.

  • 17 years ago

    I agree with Dieseler, let the tree grow, then around June-ish do a summer prune to provide vigor to the already present main crop along with a Hermans method of pinching back.

    I tried to pinch back on one of my trees but it was so agreesive that it just forked the pinched region. I may use this method to shape the tree like a shore lolli-pop.

  • 17 years ago

    Here is a book that has suited me well and encourged me to try different shapes on my trees. It also denotes the different between pruning and shaping. For me, both are important. It talks about the different shapes of trees, the fan, vase, etc, and the pruning to get there. It will say: year one, do this, year two do this.

    I would post some examples of the inside, but I dont want to get trouble! Very good book. I also have the sister version that is about diseases and pests.



    Here is a link that might be useful: Amazon Link to book

  • 17 years ago

    Loslunas said it much better than i .
    Here is a nice illustration to look at it has helped me years past and it works well in my zone .
    htpp://www.tharfield.co.nz/varities/figgrowing.htm

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for the comments, all. That's what I like about the fig forum, everyone pipes up and offers their advice & experience!

    Loslunas - I actually have that book! I dont think it answers my specific question, but it IS a great book.

    Since my goal here is to maximize brebas, I think I'll leave on most branches until the brebas ripen, then prune. That's assuming that brebas grow this year.
    I may do a test of removing some terminal buds, and leaving others on, & see which work out better.

  • 17 years ago

    I would use the book for pruning tips for example like apples that are more tip bearears, or the non-tip bearers. Sounds close to main crop and brebas! I agree on the test branch, couldnt hurt. Let me know if you need anything eukofios.

  • 17 years ago

    eukofios,

    You are in (P)NW zone 8 - a good place for fig breba.
    For example, the Desert King (a breba only fig), is said
    to do exceptionally good there - DO get one - I can supply
    a couple twigs off my specimen (UCD.85), you pay postage.

    I am no pruning expert (though I know a thing, or 2).
    When I had figs in-ground - on paper, I had come up
    with a schem to keep them in a managble size, mostly
    for easier winter protection/covering. They were in
    a BUSH form (plenty of suckers each year). The idea was
    to keep old shoots no longer than 3-5 years (before
    they get out of hand), and have newer shoots constanly
    and GRADUALLY replacing them. I had submitted this idea
    to this FF. Our fig Dr. tapla (Al), did respond, quoting
    that this was a classical way to keep plant bushes
    re-junivated. Since then, I needed to destroy all my
    inground figs (they are all in pots now), and I never
    really practiced what I had in mind.

    Also, in balmy SD; Jon had mentioned that he prunes some
    of his inground fig trees down to ~18 inches. Not sure
    if this is good for a SHORT season location
    - definitly not for breba.

  • 17 years ago

    I mis-read the original post. Yes, I agree with Georgi for MAX brebas, not main crop! I was thinking main crop. Sorry!

  • 17 years ago

    Speaking of Desert king, it does do very well in the Northwest. The trees get fairly large though. It has one pest that can be a problem:
    Bald Faced Hornets like the ripe fruit.

    {{gwi:755578}}

  • 17 years ago

    I always wondered if the Tasmaian Devil really likes figs.
    Sorry, I cannot produce any life pictures of this critter.
    Any of you fig-nuts (down-under in Aussie-Land) can shed some more info?

  • 17 years ago

    A recent image (picture) was illegally hijaked
    (and rotated 90 degree clocklwise) from:
    http://www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/grapeipm/images/Bald%20Faced%20Hornet_A.jpg

  • 17 years ago

    One year i had a big problem with wasp covering my tree's as to the point i could not pick the ripe figs and i hosed them down.
    I should have taken pictures and posted.
    Its nice to see when a person takes an actual picture from their yard or greenhouse instead of obtaining them over the internet from someone elses site.

  • 17 years ago

    dieseler;
    This NOT the first and only occurence...
    Remember that picture of the Violet de Bordeaux fig fruit
    from Elible Landscaping that suddendly/misteriously vanished?

  • 17 years ago

    Yes i remember, i have bought several types of figs from their nursery and visited the site many times and remember the VdB picture and mentioning it at the time that the picture looked familar to me. It just so happened i had bought the VdB from EL during that time frame. I would not care for someone to take my pictures and post without permission if that was the case here.I will hopefully post pictures of mt VdB in the coming season along with my others in stored in garage if they make it thru this winter, i looked at the hardy chicago and el sals today under the old bed sheets and they look normal so far. We had that 1 good cold week where it was below zero and almost broke a record when it went to minus 21 one of those nights, it did get as cold as plus 8 in garage for that week and stood below 10 above zero for the whole week, and good old fashion winter, oddly enough today we almost broke a record for warmth at 61 , 63 is the record and still stands. Tonight 1 TO 3 inches of rain and snow flurries by the end of the week.Old saying if you dont like the weather in chicago wait a few days it will change sure makes sense.

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