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Ficazzana vs. Lattarula?

17 years ago

Hi fignuts,

I'm hoping to get my first fig tree this year. Have been reading through the archives here, particularly on breba, and having seen some pictures and read some other opinions, I'm not sure what the difference is between Ficazzana and Lattarula.

To anyone who has both, are there any distinguishing factors between the two?

Many thanks,

Regina

Comments (20)

  • 17 years ago

    How about (same question) Zingarella vs. Marseilles Black VS?

  • 17 years ago

    Herman's the best person to answer your second question. If he doesn't reply on his own, I'd e-mail him.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Herman's member page

  • 17 years ago

    I have an Italian Golden Honey (Lattarula) from Paradise Nursery and a Ficazzana that I'm told originated with Grimo. They are identical - leaves, fruit - everything. They even ripened the first fig on the same day.
    So if there hasn't been a mixup somewhere (a definite possibility with figs, LOL), Italian Honey = Lattarula (light interior).

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks for the details, fignut.

    As you said at the outset, it's commonly stated that Lattarula and Italian Golden Honey are different names for the same variety, so I hope at the end there you meant to summarize with "Ficazzana = Lattarula"? Which would be very clarifying information =)

    Thanks again.
    Regina

  • 17 years ago

    Grimo Nut Nursery sells both Lattarula and Ficazzana as two distinct types with similar discription of fruit. However that does not necessarily make it the same.
    http://www.grimonut.com/catalog.php?catID=71

  • 17 years ago

    Thanks ottowan, I actually saw that and it was partly why I raised the question. Their (not very descriptive!) description is exactly the same for the two varieties.

    Sounds like maybe these would be some more candidates for that DNA testing!

  • 17 years ago

    fignut,
    I do have a Ficazzana from Grimo.
    First it came with a very serious problem,
    and now I hear that it may be mis-id'ed or
    having an alternate name
    (I can never rembember to spell the correct word "sym..." arrrh).
    It has not yet fruited for me yet.
    I do have a couple of Italian Honey (Lattarula?) to
    compare with (separate different sources).

    Should I be mad or what?

  • 17 years ago

    Ooops. Yes I did mean to say Lattarula = Ficazzana. But only for my figs. Mixups are so common, I'm not insisting that they are identical.
    But this SEEMS to be the situation: Ficazzana (Grimo) = Ficazzana B. (Adriano) = Italian Golden Honey (Paradise) = Lattarula (white interior) = Marseilles = White Marseilles = Lemon = Oregon Prolific. Talk about confusing, LOL. And that's for a fairly well known fig.

  • 17 years ago

    I was sent the link below and after studying the pictures (click on the thumbnails of each variety to see more pix), concluded that MY "Ficazzana" and Italian Golden Honey are BOTH probably Italian Golden Honey. My source for Ficazzana is extremely careful, and I doubt the mistake originated there.
    These are pictures of my main crop figs. The ribbing is much more pronounced than the Ficazzana figs pictured on Steve's page.



    My figs are identical, but Ficazzana is probably a variety separate from Italian Golden Honey.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Steve's Ficazzana and Italian Honey Pictures

  • 17 years ago

    found a description for Fico Lattarolo,
    http://www.ars-alimentaria.it/schedaProdotto.do?idProdotto=3110118&siglaRegione=030&tipologia=

    tentative translation:
    Variety source pugliese, widespread in northern Salento.
    Variety unifera.
    The fruit (provided) is sized to large, globular-shaped or spherical top, peel color from green to yellow, ribbed, with high production of latex to the posting.
    The flesh is meaty, bright red color, sweet and succulent.
    Especially good to eat fresh when ripe.
    Could someone who knows italian translate this part to english,... di latice al distacco. Google did not get the right word for ditacco, in this sentence I believe.
    Ripens the second half of august
    is cultivated widely in S. Vito d'O- tranto. Joe

    and for dessert more figs!!! check out the picture of Lattarola
    http://www.ficuscarica.com/index_file/index2.htm

  • 17 years ago

    ficus, The fig in the US known as Lattarula (Italian Honey fig), has a light interior. Condit discusses it under "Blanche" on page 374 in his Fig Varieties: A Monograph. He gives many other synonyms, among them Marseilles, White Marseilles, and Lemon. He also mentions Lattarola and specifies that this Italian variety "has red, not white, pulp".
    Condit states the the name Lattarula got attached to this white pulp fig by a "Portland nurseryman, B.R. Amend in his catalog for the season of 1942".
    The name is pretty well entrenched as a synonym for Italian Honey at this point. If you go the link in my last post and look at Italian Honey, Steve said he ordered Italian Honey and the plant came in tagged Lattarula, LOL!
    But Lattarula is not Lattarola.

  • 17 years ago

    Ficus

    di latice al distacco (of latex to seperate )

  • 17 years ago

    Thank you very much fignut and dieseler , I should have followed herman's advise to check Condit's reference a while back, that just clarifies it, I get a bit stuck /stuborn on some items until I come to understand it.

    Sorry I did not know how to get the links to be alive. I just copied them from my files. Can someone explain how to get them to be usable with a click of the mouse? You must have figured out by now that I am not very experienced with computers!

  • 17 years ago

    I'm what you call "computer illerate", LOL. Took forever to post my first picture. But this one I can help with - it's usually me asking for help.
    If you look just below where you type the post message, there is a box that says "Optional Link URL:" Just copy the link and paste it in there. Where it says "Name of the Link:" just type in what ever you want to call it.

  • 17 years ago

    Thank you Fignut, easy when you know.

  • 17 years ago

    Just my 2 cents, those pictures look alot like kadota.

  • 17 years ago

    They do resemble each other. But I also have Kadota, and the fruit and leaves are not identical to the above variety.

  • 17 years ago

    Hi Everybody:I want to say that my Italian Honey fig look exactly like Fignut ,IHF,cultivar.
    I also have Kadota,and yes it look SIMILAR,but that is the only thing.
    Kadota is a fig that needs much more heat in order to ripe fruits,compared to Italian Honey.
    Also ,it doesn't have the ribbing,wich is something I only have seen on Italian Honey,as so much pronunced,like no other.

  • 17 years ago

    O.K. here are some fig pics I labeled Kadota last year, they are from the same tree. I think my pics are of real Kadotas!! As they ripen they get more yellow, skin is a little thick, flesh is color amber, sometimes a little pinkish, sweet with a light flavor, really delicious. What do you say??? am I mistaken? They do not match the Ficcazzana/Lattarula in my view.
    The fig with the quarter was the largest one out of fifty.

    .

  • 17 years ago

    Sorry fotgot the pictures
    If you wonder why a new thread, it is because I kept getting a message saying I was rejected, that in order to post I needed to change the subject line since I already had posted a follow up. Go figure.



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