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Adding dirt to Perennial Beds

19 years ago

I have to add dirt to my perennial beds because I guess I didn't let the dirt settle enough in my new beds before planting them. I'm blaming it on the fact that we've has so little rain and snow the last 2 years they didn't settle like they should have until this spring's huge snow melt. I put board edges around them last year and now they look ridiculously high compared to the dirt level.

So, I am wondering if I just leave the plantings in the ground will it hurt (like stem rot maybe?) the herbaceous perennials and bulbs if I add a couple inches or so around them? Most of the added dirt will be around the edges of the beds and won't be touching the plants anyways, but by the time the beds are relatively level I think some will be.

If this is going to work, I was thinking I'd wait until the soil was well warmed and the plants had a few inches of good growth on them. Or should I do it now before they're up to much? The only plants I could think of that wouldn't like more dirt on them were the irises and woody shrubs. What about siberien irises, lilies, peonies and bulbs? Otherwise its things like delphs, columbines, sedums, thymes, phlox, daylilies, maltese cross, cranesbill and nepeta.

I hate to lift all the plants and replant them because they've been moved so many times in the last three years and I'd hate to lose another year letting them re-establish.

Suggestions on whether this is a good idea or not would be appreciated. Or any other ideas you may have to fix my little problem, too. Thanks in advance. :^)

Comments (9)

  • 19 years ago

    Would it not be simpler to take a saw and cut the boards down closer to the new ground level? Why not then buy some stones (pavers) and edge the beds with that to kind of hide the boards?

    Might cost a little more but it might be easier to do than lifting all the plants up.

    Can you post a picture of your problem?

    Brenda

  • 19 years ago

    I agree with Brenda, but if you just need to add an inch or two, you could do it slowly (1/2" at a time) and I don't think any of your perennials would care. Except irises and peonies which are picky about their depth, I think you would need to lift those.

  • 19 years ago

    Personally I don't think an inch or two of soil on top would cause harm. Any more, possibly. I mean, just because I planted bulbs 4 inches deep three years ago doesn't mean they are still exactly 4 inches deep in the soil - sometimes the soil is worked in spring or compost is added, etc.

    If you are worried, maybe leave a small circle around some plants where you don't raise the soil? Normally that might encourage water to pool around those plants in heavy rain storms, but raised beds usually drain great and are on the dry side anyways.

    Though maybe think about raising some of the more "depth sensitive plants" like peony and iris.

    Glen

  • 19 years ago

    So, you're only adding soil for aesthetics, right? All plants are happy the way they're planted?

    Why not add mulch instead? Looks good, retains moisture, helps with weeds, and eventually breaks down.

  • 19 years ago

    Yes, I think Pudge has a great idea of adding a few inches of mulch to add the height you're wanting. Just don't add any right around the peonies, irises and even daylilies don't like to be too deep.

  • 19 years ago

    This isn't a problem but an opportunity to top dress with some good compost. I'd wait about another 2 weeks and and plants are up another 4 to 6 incehes and then add compost and, as stated above, some mulch on top of that.

    I've purposely added layers of garden ties to tops of garden bed borders so i could build up beds another few inches. Most of your plants won't even hiccup. One exception is the Iris. They will need to be lifted so the corms are exposed...but this won't bother them in the least if done in the next couple of weeks.

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks for all your thoughts on this.
    Here's a picture, but it doesn't really show the unevenness of the dirt very well, but maybe it gives you the idea.

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    Brenda, I think it would be just as much work to cut the boards down as to bring in more dirt/mulch. The boards are 1x6 layed down but standing up on their sides and already screwed into 2x4 corner pegs that are pounded into the ground. And stone is wonderful and permanent, but I have a bunch of 1x6 here and its just cheaper and easier on the back. Thanks for the idea though. :^)

    So adding up all the comments here, I think what I will do is level what dirt is there then add mulch and compost. My only compost is well rotted manure and my only mulch on hand is raked leaves and grass clippings (I live a long ways from civilization so I try to use what's handy). Maybe a good mix of the two in order to dilute the manure so it doesn't burn anything, and the manure might help the leaves from blowing away? It will also be lighter and easier on the back than dirt...a must for gardening longevity! :^)

    As far as plants I'll make sure iris's, daylilies and peony's are the right depth...what is the consensus on lilies?

    Thanks a bunch, Toots :^)

  • 19 years ago

    Toots, if the manure you're using is well rotted, it shouldn't burn any of the plants. I put manure that is about 20 years old, 5" or 6" deep on some new beds and planted straight into it and the plants love it. I think the lilies should be ok. They don't mind being deep, and if they don't like their new position, I've heard that they'll move themselves up(or down) with the roots along their stems.

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks Laurie.
    Good to know how much manure others have added and its been ok. I'm always over cautious. I've had foiliage turn reddish and I get spooked, even though they grow green after a while. My pile of manure should be at least 10 years old.

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